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Comment by Prollium

The only mount (as of now) to be an epic mount that does not require the epic mount training AND that is available to both Horde and Alliance.

PvP mounts are no longer available that met above criteria as the ranking system is now gone.

Comment by spity

how do you get this mount when it comes?

Comment by ozackranger

If the boss is going to be in the same place as last year, SM GY, then it won't be heroic since no pre BC dungens have a heroic mode avalible.

Comment by Crimsonlord

Dead ey? Headless horseman.

I am assuming that he will be in Crypts, it's most likely :)

Comment by Golem17

~~This seems to be the only mount that scales with riding skill.~~ This mount scales with riding skill. If you have the epic flying skill it will be a epic flying mount in Outland. It also works in Azeroth as a epic land mount. Seeing how is has no duration on it I think its going to be a very low drop. It might change when it goes live but that's how it is on the PTR. I put up a few screenshots so expect them to show up soon.

Edit: Well it seems none of the screenshots were put up. I got the mount on the pve ptr server during the 1 day they had hallow's end up. ~~If you can get on the pve PTR server before the PTR closes you can see me on it in the middle of Shattrath on my premade lock named Finda.~~ The PTR has closed.

2nd edit: Here are the screenshots I tried to put up.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/AoSfreelancer/Mount1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/AoSfreelancer/Mount2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/AoSfreelancer/mount3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/AoSfreelancer/Mount4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/AoSfreelancer/Mount5.jpg

11/09/08 edit: This mount is no longer the only mount that scales with riding skill.

Comment by SamuraiJakkass86

Flying Headless Horseman mount <.< That's almost as silly as my gf wanting a flying talbuk that jumps on people heads o_o

Comment by Krabbe

I think it sounds nice.. But then.. What will happen to the flying broom (epic version)?

Comment by Sly99

It seems odd to me that it has a belt picture...

Comment by Lazer1275

So wait, Since it adds a 280% Flight Speed in outland yet it only requires lvl 30 riding skill wouldent that mean that anyone who can get in outland a free epic flying mount? Or would the flight speed being added depend on your riding skill?

Comment by Foranda

That thing flys!?!?!?!

Comment by Ryuki

Woot, Thats Amazing, Now I can bind my ground mount and air mount buttons to one button if i get this mount! This means, dadada no more falling off the aldor tier with a land mount because I thought it was flying until i jumped off..

Comment by Mature

#showtooltip
/cast Reins of the Violet Netherwing Drake
/cast Reins of the Raven Lord

Problem solved. Uses Drake in Areas that flying mounts are allowed and uses my Raven in areas only ground mounts are allowed. Also changes the tooltip and will change the display icon if you select a Question mark upon making the macro.

Comment by PhoenixUnity07

Will this mount actually drop from Horseman this year were those pics on a private server?

Comment by shamanlover

This mount is so imba it will probably end up not getting into the game or being the lowest drop ingame. (I meen seriously.. Riding around on a burning horse in the air is quite epiq... It should rather be a legendary item them ;P)

Comment by Tsukushi

There are already a couple of models in the game that would be considered "burning horses". Warlock felsteeds, Fiery Warhorse reins from Attumen, and the Skeletal warhorse being them. This mount won't be anything special from its look but if what the above comments say about it also being a flying mount is true, that's a different story.

Comment by Returner99

It is the only epic mount that doesn't require epic mount training, and is avaible for BOTH Horde and Alliance, unlike the Wintersaber.

Comment by Stinker93

Is this item going to be added in Octobers seasonal event in 2008, or is it from last years 2007 event

Comment by Ameran

Wait I don't get it... the 2008 hasn't come yet and I see a screenshot of one up there, does that mean its possible to get when it's not Hallow's End?

Comment by Ameran

Aaaannnd?

The Summer Festival Boss didn't need to be heroic...
The brewfest boss was held in BRD which doesn't have heroic..

Where is all this crap coming from that the boss has to be in a heroic instance? O.o

Comment by Deadraider

It is from a PTR

Comment by andulos

Can't wait till I can get this, I'll be able to fly around using the helm laugh all over the place >:D Wish the helm was going to scale to 80, :( oh well... maybe next year he'll be alot harder and a lvl 80 version will drop /cackles

Comment by Ameran

Ahh ok thanks.

Comment by redandgray

"This seems to be the only mount that scales with riding skill."

Death Knights get a flying mount that scales with riding skill.

Comment by Royi

dropped today of Horseman on Live Server.

just says:

Use: Teaches you how to summon this mount.

Requires lvl 60 and Riding (75)

thats all. and it Flys :-P\

whatever skill riding you have (including Epic Flying) it will accommodate to you. And obviously will be just a 100% land mount in the old world

Comment by crazymanband

does it disapear in 14 days of playing or 14 days after u get it?

Comment by failquail

Nope, this one is permanent.

Comment by Ithilion

This one does not disappear.

Comment by Flapalapagus

I don't understand how a ghost horse can fly, yet a demon steed of another dimension raised and trained by a powerful and almighty dreadlord can't. Well that doesn't matter lol.
This is one bad ass mount,

Comment by Toraneko

Any word of drop rate percentage yet? I've seen a few people on my server running around with one.

Comment by Grimblood

I've also seen MANY characters with the mount so either they are VERY lucky ALL :P or it's not THAT rare. And no it has not been the same guy i've seen so many times :P But tbh, Idon't care if it's rare or not I still want it ;)

Comment by Grimblood

I've also seen MANY characters with the mount. On Al'Akir (EU) realm.

Comment by servaprotect

i was the first on my server to get it

went at exactly 4:00 o clock and it was the first drop

Comment by LeCrazyMaffe

Got him after 28 runs

Comment by wct097

Just confirming that this drops in live. Got it 10.18.2008. Saw it drop once in the 21 times I killed HH that day. It works as a land mount in Azeroth and a land & flying mount in Outland. I don't seem to need any special macros to use it in one or the other, I just added it to my actionbar and it works. Horse leaves a glow behind it's legs and seems to have a greenish aura.

Comment by AstrayQQ

Dropped in my very first run. No idea what the droprate is on this, hoping on seeing it drop more though :p

Comment by Jademalo

Im curious, But if you are in outland with only flying skill, is it 60% run and 60% fly, or 100% run and 60% fly?

Comment by Mankeli

Dropped twice in a row today. Lost both rolls of course, have to keep trying I guess.

Comment by Jademalo

Is this a 100% ground and 60% flying if you dont have epic flying mount training? or is it 60% ground and 60% flying

Comment by shadowcrawler

this dropped along with the broom and a ring.i won them all. Dropped on my 1st run as a lvl 68 pally

hehe,no-one can beat my negative score, i guess saying i was extremely lucky hurt too many people's ego's. And the luck is just a reference, not to show off, just saying its possible to win the horse,broom and a ring all in one instance(not in one drop).

Comment by tunzer5

About the Statement on Only Scaleable Mount....

The Statement is Incorrect, The Mount From Blizzcon Big Blizzard Bear Also Scales with Riding speed Like the Reigns and also the Wing Steed of the Ebon Blade scales with riding speed, althought they do not completely scale to Flying and non flying they do infact scale
And one that does scale completely also is Magic Broom althought temporary it does Scale completely

Comment by NegativeFPS

Seems like it has a very high drop rate. At least two people on Skullcrusher have it already, along with the comments posted here.. seems pretty frequent

Comment by LiggyEU

The drop rate should be very low. Under 1% I guess.
I have only seen one person who has it, and I have killed the headless horseman atleast 40 times, without any mount drop.
The brewfest mounts does have a much higher drop chance.

Comment by ChaosWing

I believe that if you have all the way to normal flying mount training it's a 100% running mount in Azeroth and a 60% flying mount in Outlands.

Comment by birdhouse456

had this drop for me today, killed the horseman easily about 80 times before i got it.
lucky i am a healer, getting groups is easymode :D
well good luck and happy hunting to you all

Comment by Grimblood

Why are people giving minus rating for saying that I have indeed seen a lot of players with the mount considering it's supposed to be very rare. My point was simply that HOW rare it can be if I've seen at least 10 characters riding this mount and it's still the 3 day of the fest.

EDIT: People frustrated for not getting it themselves? ;)

Comment by legoman60

I can confirm that in outland, with 225 riding the mount will go ~~60%~~(no longer true due to the changes in flying mounts) in air and 100% on the ground. It says it also when you hover over the mount's buff in that situation.

Comment by Grimblood

Lol that's childish. Have your fun then.

Comment by shamanlover

This mount actually flies 60% and runs 100% in outland. I really wonder if its a bug but i guess its fair since it runs 100% in Azeroth. Why would it run at a different speed in outland :p

Comment by oxyl

Curiosity:
You can summon it while still in combat, although it gets cancelled if your still in combat after the 3 sec cast.

Comment by lime148

Seeing several lucky people doesn't mean it's not rare. And this may come as a shock, but nobody cares about how many people on your realm that have it.

Comment by legoman60

In outland with 225 riding your speed will be 100% on the ground and ~~60%~~(no longer true due to the changes in flying mounts) in the air.

Comment by Sortsnak

Was lucky on a roll after about 30 kills. Very nice scalable mount. :)

Comment by Murloc

Yes, but it will be 280% in air if you have epic flying skill, as the mount changes depending on your riding skill! Thats why you got downrated, because your comment wasnt entirely true

Comment by starrdumbb

Does anyone know the drop rate on this mount?

Comment by soundedfury

It isn't epic, it scales with your riding skill.

Comment by Seprest

Btw this means you can have a 100% ground speed AND 60% air speed, making it better then a normal gryphon/wyvern if you have 225 riding skill.

Comment by Magiccougar

I have a question, it says it scales to your riding skill, but if it drops and you win it, then say you train the epic flying skill afterwards, does the mount then become an epic flyer? Or does it stay 60% like when you got it?

Comment by Cocomatona

I believe this was the case with the legendary silithid mount from the AQ opening event but it was fixed, I'd expect this mount to be fixed in time as well.

Comment by lunage

Killed him over 75 times, never seen this mount drop once. He's dropped everything else at least 7 times each. A guildie reported seeing it drop three times, but never won.

Comment by Tural

It scales based on your current skill. If you buy a higher skill after you get it, it will take the new skill amount. In that case, it would become a 280% flyer in Outland if you trained the appropriate skill after you picked it up.

Comment by Adriusan

Killed Horseman 10 times, seen 1 squashling, 1 horsemans helm, 1 epic sword, no hallowed helm, or mount. Does anyone have a drop rate on this mount?

Comment by Silhac

It is possible to acquire this mount before level 70. A level 64 on my server currently possesses this mount. As long as you can enter the SM graveyard and can find a willing group to drag you along (ask guildies for best results), you have a shot at getting this mount this year.

Comment by Pagan3000

It scales no matter your skill whether its upgraded before or after getting it

Comment by failadin

It does not go epic speed unless you have the epic training.

Comment by Againigan

Dropped twice in 15 summons over the first two days for me. I won the 2nd roll. :D
I know of at least 8 Alliance on my realm (Hyjal) that have this mount.

Comment by phluff

farmed this the first night, with a lock, and another account sent up in trade district. killed HHM about 70 times, and on around the 65-68th time the reins dropped, but i didn't win. Dissapointing that i didn't win, and dissapointing i don't have much time except for weekends to play for 5 hours straight to farm, hopefully i will win this soon. at least someone in my guild won, haha

Comment by Ikaiama

The Mount will go as fast as your riding skill permits. If you have highest land riding skill then it goes 100%, if you have epic flyer it goes 280% when flying. Very fun mount :) Even with the few I see flying around Shatt I still get tells. Took me 3 hours of non stop runs to get the mount to drop even once! About 21-24 runs in is when we saw it drop. Good luck!

Comment by Bendik

Epic speed? He meant epic quality..

Comment by Murloc

Thanx to everyone who downrated my comment when its actually based on fact not some wild guessing.

Comment by Complete

Update: 70 Runs on Headless Horseman
4 - Sinister Squashling
3 - Hallowed Helm
1 - Horeseman's Reins

Comment by Kirbymaster

Copy/pasted from my post on forums:

How to Farm HH for mount/squashling/helm:

Get a Tank, Healer and Warlock (and if you want you can bring a 4th to farm too), and after you do your summons, have the warlock continuously summon in level 65s-69s. (Level 65 is the minimum requirement to summon the Headless Horseman.)

Have someone you all trust be Master Looter, so the lowbies get all rings and the others get to /roll for Mount, pet, etc.

The lowbies do their quest, get a ring and whatever drops that you already have, so everyone is happy.

Using this method I have farmed the HH 200 times already, and received all loot (including mount).

Good Luck with farming your loot.

Comment by Bulo

omg mount for flexing in aldor bank :P

Comment by Zish

Here's a quote by Kisirani on the official forums regarding the rarity of this mount:

Ooglop, the Horseman's mount is ten times as rare as the Squashling, in terms of pure numbers. You've just had a very strange run of personal luck.

Even though the Squasling's drop rate was "increased significantly" from last year, the mount still has a very low drop rate.

Comment by apparentbliss

Cross posting a comment I made on The Horseman's Reins achievement:

According to this blue post, "the Horseman's mount is ten times as rare as the Squashling, in terms of pure numbers." Just from personal experience over the 75ish runs I have made over the past several days, I make the educated guess that the squashling pet is at most a 14-16% drop, and I would not be surprised if the drop rate was 10% or lower. This makes the Reins, at best, a less-than-2% drop. All of this is pure conjecture, of course, but short of getting inside the servers it is probably about as accurate as we will get.

Comment by apparentbliss

Regardless of your riding skill, it will travel at 100% on the ground and 60% in the air. The Horseman's Reins work in Azeroth and Outlands.

Wrong. If you have Artisan Riding, it travels 280% in the Outlands once you leave the ground.

Comment by apparentbliss

The reason it was downrated earlier is that you were and are wrong. With 225 riding, it is 280% in the air, as suggested above.

Comment by lackofgravitas

No, at 225 skill it would be 60% in the air. Unless you think Blizzard are likely to help people forego the 5000G cost of 300 riding skill.

Comment by Dannyboy18

This mount is a rare RARE drop rate, has to be in the .01-.1% drop rate, got it on my priest, and it pwns hardcore and HOPEFULLY blizz will make training for epic mount cheap becuase i dont have training and it would pwn to have to pay 500g for training :) like when BC came out

Comment by vickfan23

very nice mount
but do u get to keep it? or does it go Away?

Comment by odnshammer

you keep it.. unlike the brooms this mount has no duration

Comment by Globalplayboy

does anybody know the approximate droprate of this item as its not listed here in wowhead?

It dropped just 30 mins ago and everybody needed it before i could offer ppl any gold thus a pally won it. Im wondering if I can ever see it again

Comment by doodle43

Why you think that it will go 280% with 225 riding I have no idea, but you are quite wrong.

Comment by slantastic

Heres a fun little trick for those lucky enough to have gotten the mount (like myself...wooo).

In outlands, if you're running along while mounted on the ground, fly up a yard, then press the move down button, it drops you about halfway through the ground. You remain halfway through the ground for a good 4-5seconds before it pops you back out and you're running normally again. While you're in the ground you move at whatever flight speed you have trained.

People get really confused when you zoom passed them on the coolest mount in the game at epic speed :)

Comment by lawlimnator

I have killed the Headless Horseman about 150 times, I've seen four Sinister Squashlings, seven Hallowed Helms, four Horseman's Blades, five Horseman's Helmets, limitless rings, and still not one mount. Blizzard hates me.

Comment by altho

I'm up at 75 runs so far on this day, and about 120 runs in total.
I still haven't seen a single mount drop, and my hope is somewhat failing.

I'm continiously asking in trade and lfg for a group that is willing to pass on the mount for 1000gold each.

Just to let you know I'm not sneaking into groups.. :)

The sword is the most rare item, except for the mount, which I have yet not seen.

Comment by Chaserbl

dropped yesterday
rolled 95 and gues what
some NOOB GREEN MAGE ROLLED 99
All I did was
Alt+F4

Comment by Cerilio

rofl idiot

Comment by Tizen

Does any one know how big the drop chance is on this mount? I have been in the instance like 4 or 5 times (Every1 had the quest to summon him) and no mount yet. Only the magic booms. Can any1 tell me?

Comment by Dorminus

It's a means of getting rid of the trash, so to speak. Comments that have already been stated or otherwise are just being repetitive or just useless information are normally subject to mass downrate for the reason that they server no purpose other than filling the comment screen. Much like this comment for example...

Comment by Gaerland

It's interesting that people notice that X amount of people have this mount (somebody said 10 had it on the third day of the event) and say "well it can't be that rare"

.........

There are people killing the horseman hundreds of times a day without even seeing the mount drop. The fact that 10 people got lucky is far from making this drop any more common.

Comment by Aleion

This dropped for my friend the very first run he did, he didn't know what HH was and he doesn't have epic flight so it's wasted as a god damn 60% flyer. I have run forever ad no drops. Blizz rewards noobs who hardly ever play and screws the dedicated over. I DEMAND this mount. I will ninja it from a kid with aids if need be lol. And screw you who roll on it just because its rare and you wouldn't get it if it was common.

Comment by Passoquito

Just got mine today, rolled with another 2 people. Such a nice ride. As i have 225 riding skill it still only goes 60/100 land/air. Nice!

Comment by Malanna

I finally got this mount after killing the Headless Horseman 33 times. I got the Headless Horsemans Blade as well. I rolled a 99, while another guy rolled 92. I put a few screenshots, both in the air and on the ground. I have 225 Riding Skill, and in the air, the mount goes 60% flying speed, and on the ground (You can summon anywhere), goes 100% faster.

Comment by Spiderkeg

There is a rumor going around that the mount can be found from the Treat Bags, obtained every hour at an innkeeper. This is probably assumed since the Squashling pet and Hallowed Helm can also be obtained through the Treat Bags.

I personally think this is a rumor. The Horseman Reigns is a Feat of Strength, and I don't see Blizzard allowing this to be obtained through a random hour occurrence, but rather through the effort of fighting 'ol Headless.

Can anyone confirm/justify this rumor?

Comment by Longtooth

While random is indeed random, the chance of Deathchanger's Reins dropping was increased with 3.0.2. This is the second time the drop rate has been increased, from the rather crazy 1 in 5000 WAY back in the day to the 1 in 100 it is now.

As Stated by Daelo
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11675537865&pageNo=5&sid=1#81

Comment by Noar

They must have increased the drop rate for this, after a hotfix. Did a run yesterday, and in five kills we got three mounts. The problem was that one player got two mounts, even though they should be unique, obviously. A GM confirmed that you shouldn't be able to roll on the mount when you already have one, and that it's a bug.

Sadly I wasn't one of us who got the Horseman's reins. Better luck next time, I guess.

Comment by Dorsai

I have been very lucky, I never go on the seasonals normally but on the second night I went to SM I got a ring, helm and mount. Only now do I realise how lucky.

Comment by Klarno

Take note however that Armory also reports the Deathcharger's Reins as being a 1-2% drop rate, which is patently false (by comparing information from wowhead, thottbot and allhakazam, i've worked that drop rate out to be about 1:20,000). I'd wait a while to see if we can get any drop data on the horseman's reins.

And I know the difference between Deathcharger's and Horseman's. I'm just pointing out Deathcharger as a reference for how wrong the armory can be.

The Horseman's Reins are almost certainly more common than that, probably in line with the ZG mounts or better. I'm just saying that the armory "official" droprates for rare items aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

Comment by aikouka

Deathcharger's Reins has been reported by Daelo to be a 1 in 100 drop chance since 3.0.2 and he also mentioned that it was raised before in the past and that the original drop rate (way back when) was 1 in 5,000.

Comment by bouffanda

The deathcharger's reigns are now a 1 in 100 drop rate, so the wowhead rates are going to be inaccurate anyway.

"While random is indeed random, the chance of Deathchanger's Reins dropping was increased with 3.0.2. This is the second time the drop rate has been increased, from the rather crazy 1 in 5000 WAY back in the day to the 1 in 100 it is now. "

Comment by Cerathas

^^That. I got this night before last on my 10th kill of the horseman. Also everyone in the group managed to pickup a broom so I guess the magic loot slot machine was primed to pay out. I've also gotten a couple rings as well as the sword, so I guess it's been a good Halloween Seasonal.

Comment by Akom

MMO-Champion post confirming the 1/100 drop rate for deathcharger here.

Comment by ditre

its epic because of its rarity, not for how fast it goes

Comment by altho

My farming for this mount has continued, and I'm now closing in to 350 numbers of total kills and I have yet still not seen the mount a single time.

I think it's me being unlucky, and I just hope rng will award me for my hard work.

Getting worried that I will not be able to get this before Hallow's End comes to an end ;/

Comment by stevo79

Mine dropped at my 3th run at HH. I can confirm that it has 280 flying speed when u have the 300 skill. It looks awsome!

Comment by Cryptern

today this one dropped 2 times within 4 summons. random drops sure is random lol

Comment by splorygon

Deathcharger's Reins does not equal The Horseman's Reins.

Comment by Dragoo12

It just dropped for me today. I have killed this guy about 10 times before, so I would say the drop rate is about 1-2%. I lost the roll, but this mount looks awesome on anyone! Totally worth getting.

After that, the Hallowed Helm and the Sinister Squashling dropped on the same kill!

I have seen the helm once and never seen the pet. I won the roll on the helm and lost on the pet.

I am very happy ^_^

Comment by DR3N

Does anyone know if the chance for this dropping has anything to do with how fast you kill the HH? I've almost killed the horseman's head on the 2nd phase (got him down to less than 10 hp), but never could do it quick enough.. and I heard that if you kill him during the first phase he'll have a high chance to drop the reins, does anyone have any more info on this or know that it's not true at all?

Comment by Barskap

I've done him atleast 100 times now and I have seen the pet drop like 10 times, never seen the mount though.

Comment by Gozin1011

I have ran this event 637 times in the process of lowbie summons. I have had absolutely no luck in a single mount drop. I have come up with the theory that speed on how fast you drop the boss down has relevance. I have seen many more pet/sword drops when I downed him in a minute or two compared to where lowbie matches are 5-6 minutes and even though pets would drop, it didn't drop as frequently. imput would be wonderful as I am becoming extremely stressed after 637 entire runs. Any advise due to the fact there are only 6-7 more days left would be splendid.

Comment by Minotour

Personally i have ran this instance everyday since the event has started, on most runs all i see are the rings drop... and thats all that mostly drops when i go.. being a mage.. i only found one of the loots good for me.. apart for the pet/pumpkin helm. 5 days left until the events over still waiting for the mount to drop.... Although i've seen a few people on my server with one... i'm yet to experince one to drop.

Comment by Ameran

True, however, the broom only lasts. 14 days.

@Mature, as of patch 3.0.2 that macro does not work... its attempting to use the item instead of the spell (due to the fact that mounts are now learned by the item)

Any tips? I'd love to get that macro working.

Comment by LoKHor

It is an incredibly low droprate. Unfortunately, most of us will not even see this mount drop, despite doing five summons every day of Hallow's End. And even if it does drop, you have to outroll four other people, meaning that your chances of getting this mount are extremely low.

If you have a whole lot of nice acquaintances then maybe you can increase your chance by heading in without a summon, but I wouldn't count on people allowing you in a group unless you had a summon available. ;)

LoKHor

Comment by Nabikula

Another quirk, if you ride this through the portal, from Azeroth to Outlands, you will have to resummon it to fly. For some reason, it seems to stay in land mount mode after going through.

Comment by zarian81

I did this 5 times a day for about a week. In that amount of time I got the blade, Hallowed Helm, ring, and through trick or treating I got the squashling. After so many attempts I have finally gotten the mount. Any1 on Bleeding Hollow looking to increase there chances if it drops, PST me. I do the quest to get the summons every day. Phaide LVL 70 Rogue.

Comment by Syphris

Those percentages on the drop rate are not to say that if you ran this 100 times you'd see a 10% drop-rate item drop 10 times. It it says that chances are this would happen when infact something with a 99% chance to drop might not drop once, though this would probably cause the universe to implode.

Comment by Lunarcheese

Don't know if it's just me, but I find this mount to be quite glitched.

A) You can begin the summoning process while in combat, but it will "fail"
B) You can mount in some places you'ld normally be unable to, like
towers in Alterac Valley
C) You can't dismount while in motion like you can on other mounts.

Comment by azurelith

I have run this about 56 times, of these, i recorded what dropped 50 times. i have seen the squashling drop 4 times, the different rings 32 times, the magic broom 10 times, the helm 3 times, and finally on my 50th run, i saw the mount drop but unforunately, i lost the roll to a priest by 4 points. Being a mount collector, i was hoping to get this mount before the event ends however, my hopes are diminishing. I never even managed to get any of the Brewfest mounts.

Comment by Radio

Interesting little graphical error with this mount. It never adjusts to inclination when using it as a land mount. It is always running completely horizontal. You can see what I'm talking about in the screen shot of the the HH mount next to the warlock mount (picture 12 atm).

This is course may get fixed in 3.0.3.

Comment by Kangi

B) You can mount in some places you'ld normally be unable to, like
towers in Alterac Valley

Since 3.0.2 all mounts are now able to be used in Alterac Valley towers and also zeppelin towers. So I don't believe this is a bug regarding this mount.

Comment by Mumpley

My friend has ran the Headless Horseman approximately 112 times during this event. He mentioned that this mount didn't drop once at all in the time he killed HH. Im confirming this item has an extremely low drop rate.

Comment by Ledomar

What could be better than running HH with a couple of other players that haven't even done The Headless Horseman. So all told, we summoned him 8 times in this run. The Horseman's Blade dropped twice, which was good for me and the pally that were running this group. After our 6th summon, our druid thought we were out of summons and hearthed out. So down to 4-manning him, what fun! We summon him again and pwn him easily. Just a ring drops. We heal and mana up. Final summon. PWNED! I walk over to his body, click to loot it, and.......The Horseman's Reins! w00t. Got both the sword and the mount. All in all, it was a good night! And the best part, I don't have to get a flying mount now, just the skill!

Comment by Jordynn

Literally took 10 seconds to update the macro for 3.0.2

#showtooltip
/cast Cenarion War Hippogryph
/cast Great White Kodo

Plug that into a macro, open your mounts page, highlight Cenarion War Hippogryph in the macro, shift+click your desired flying mount. Repeat for your ground mount.

Like Mature mentioned, using the default question mark as the macros icon will change the icon to whatever mount is available.

Comment by seanownsyou

Super rare drop, me and a guildy have farmed this every night since the event started. 30+ summons a night, I have seen it drop 3 times. Tonight I finally won it. Very cool looking mount, however I noticed the glitches in it right away. Still, saves you from having to buy an epic mount. The only mount I really am looking forward to, that I would use over this currently is the Travler's Tundra Mammoth.

If you are going to farm this guy, I would recommend getting a tank/healer/lock(for summons)/Mage(for courtesy ports). You can just send tells to anyone level 65-69 and most will be willing to come in summon as long as you can summon/port/give them a chance to win on anything that drops.

Anyways, can be a tough grind still got a couple days to go though! So don't lose hope!

Comment by Shofie

How is it "wasted"? He'll get his epic flying skill eventually. A mount is a mount. Just because someone has max flying skill doesn't mean they "deserve" it more than anyone else. If he was level 65+ and contributed a summon, he had just as much right to roll as anyone else.

Don't be bitter you didn't win the roll.

Comment by Shofie

I had run this event some 150+ times. Being a healer means it's easier to get into groups once your summon is gone for the day, since guildmates and such need you, plus running it with alts, etc. According to the armory, this has a 1-2% drop rate.

That said, I've only seen this mount drop twice. I won it the first time it dropped, and on my birthday, no less. I was pretty thrilled to say the least. :)

Hopefully I don't get rated down for admitting I won the reins, as most other posts where people admit they won it are getting rated down into a hole in the ground.

Comment by praevalens

Got this on my first ever try. Lvl 65 and rolled a 100. The four 70's were so !@#$ed! Hah!

Comment by evenlate

This was my first year actualy participating in Hallow's End since release date of wow.
Due to computer problems every year i have not been able to run HH or play at all.
First drop of the run and first time ever running it i won the reins, now if that isent luck i dont know what is.

Comment by 2OfDiamonds

You could have read that that post was made: By Golem17 on 07/13/2008 (Patch 2.4.2) and at that time that comment was correct.

Just something to keep in mind, posts are not always incorrect when viewed in that respect ;)

Comment by Rutilcaper

We really wanted to get this mount, ended up running it 15-20 times per day. Then, while I was at work on Saturday, I figured I could recruit pugs for a gold fee to try and get it. I could just imagine the showers of praise my girlfriend would heap upon me when I came home and suggested she log into WoW, only to find her character riding on the mount, flying above Shatt.

But it wasn't to be. 1000g+ later, still no mount.

So I go home. We try for a little longer, still recruiting pugs at 30g per. Nothing. After about an hour I say I'm gonna give up. That's when my guildmates tell me it's not an option. They have us leave her character idle in a safe spot and continue to farm. We come back a couple hours later and they're still there (bless their little hearts). She tries with them a couple more times, but it's all for naught. Eventually one guild member calls it around 3 AM.

2000-some gold and no horse mount. :(

I hate this game.

But I love my guild.

Comment by Pepperly

a weird thing that happens when u are on the mount and a buddy uses the bat wand on u-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b23yeFPh6hw

Comment by 2OfDiamonds

the comment might be redundant ( - rateable) but still be informative or insightful (a bit of history, backstory + rateable).

its up to the reader, but personally i feel old comments that still have some meaning should not be removed or downrated.

Comment by Corpsemongar

I have a question will the mount increase to 310% speed like some of the other mounts you can get after WoTLK hits (Maybe after you get Cold Weather Flying quest)? Or will it stay at 280% speed?

Comment by Corrupted

I saw this mount on a level 60 blood elf paladin on Balnazzar and I just laughed my ass off, he either had friends who let him do the boss without being able to summon or just dumb luck.

Still seeing a level 60 on this is hilarious.

Comment by Sincerity

It's fixed now, it's like all other mounts, you cannot summon it in combat.

Comment by Blackwing

Epic is not a speed, but a rarity. Items with a purple name are epic, therefore, this mount is an epic mount.

Comment by Mejjad

If you accept the quest A rough ride in Sholazar Basin while mounted on this mount something strange also happens. You don't unmount but rides the crocolisk anyway. It looks really funny. I took some screenshots:
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5669/wowscrnshot120608134755vf7.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2121/wowscrnshot120608134757xr6.jpg

Comment by InvisibleElf

At time speaking you won't have to choose between Horseman's Mount and Tundra Mammoth as you can mount the horse on top of the mammoth! This is because the mammoth is treated as a vehicle and a bug allows you to summon the horse while on vehicles (any vehicle at all) :D

Screenshot: http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot012009221512ap8.jpg

Hope it will stay this way :P

As of patch 3.1 it does no longer work since the mammoth is not a vehicle any more.

Comment by Skullhawk13

Rofl pwned =D But no kidding, It is ok to tell him to update, but don't say hes flat out wrong without linking proof, or else your just being unhelpful -,-"

Comment by Skullhawk13

why is shofie down rated? thats 100% correct, that means an idiots around here >.>

Comment by Kusaionara

I have this mount and it shows up as a feat of strength in the achievements. Does this mean it will no longer be attainable?

Comment by Supertoaster

When you put the 3d viewer on, while its loading, it may look scary, but its a pink pony underneath!

Comment by shamanlover

You can, however, still start to summon this mount while swimming or riding the new siege vehicles in Wintergrasp and Strand of the Ancient. This can make a difference in alot of situations and i use this mount like this myself very much. (you press C for interface and go to the "pets" tab to start summoning the mount on a siege vehicle.)

Comment by MasterJunn

This mount is great, but it is bugged when trying to dismount while moving at all.
Can't even dismount while walking D:

Comment by JackContraband

I want it so badly. Best looking mount for a rogue.

Comment by RorMirror

A few of the issues with this mount have been resolved as of patch 3.1:
-You can no longer summon this mount while on a vehicle mount. So, no more horses riding mammoths and motorcycles.
-The mount now tilts while following terrain on the ground, however it is still slightly buggy in that now the mount is always perpendicular to the surface that it is running along. Running along small hills is quite comical.

Also the mount still can not be dismissed by using the mount command while moving. Manually canceling the buff or a cancelaura macro still work for dismounts while moving:

/cancelaura Headless Horseman's Mount
/cast Headless Horseman's Mount

Comment by Lampwick

I've noticed if you mount up on some vehicle type mounts you can also summon the Horsemen's mount and end up riding a horse riding a vehicle. Just tested this on the new Argent Tournament mounts and this applies as well.

Comment by Suisei

This mount is now called the "Headless Horseman's Night Charger" when used in Outland and Northrend. I am unsure if this holds true for people who do not have flight training.

Comment by raptoring

i have lose this mount ç_ç

Comment by Alma

From what I gather, the effect that summons this mount is just a stub that summons one of 4 mounts, (they look the same, but behave differently in terms of speed and ground/flying) based on riding skill. The epic ground mount (no-fly zones) is "Headless Horseman's Mount" and the epic flyer is "Headless Horseman's Midnight Charger."

Edit: I'm not sure why this was rated down, since it's true and hasn't really been touched on elsewhere. Go to Dalaran, mount up, and then ride to the flight area. Notice how you can't fly off until you dismount/remount? It's because it summoned a different version (one of the four I mentioned) of the mount while in the no-flying portion of Dalaran. I'd wager that if you had this mount, but didn't have epic flying, you could mount up and fly (at 60%) over to the trainer, buy epic flying and...still be flying at 60%. This would of cousre be until you dismounted/remounted, but it emphasizes my point.

Comment by Artexus

saw this drop TWICE last halloween - didn't get either :(

Comment by phactory81

Its just like the DK mount it is epic and lvls as you lvl your riding skill

Comment by Slyfanitor

I never saw this drop even though I killed the Horseman 5 times each day for the duration of the event, just goes to show the wonders of the RNG :P I wouldn't have minded even if I had lost the roll would still have been fun to see it drop :)
Well if it is still attainable this year I hope I manage to get it this time, after all even Juggy from PL has one :D

Comment by shadobeast13

this has been fixed as of 3.1.0

Comment by shadobeast13

i heard rumor that this mount will be available only once every other year. Anybody know if this is confirmed?

Comment by mixter

I believe this was the case with the legendary silithid mount from the AQ opening event

any1 know what mount that is?

Comment by jdgks

I wish i had it. Never drops.

Comment by hemek

I wonder if this year you can get that mount - its an awesome mount....would look hella good for a Death Knight....way better then riding on a fricken chicken

Comment by Epicwins

Video of this bad boy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEzo5oCB5ms

Comment by Hiccupz24

I made a drop simulator to see what my chances would be of getting this (and a lot of other mounts), but this is by far one of the lowest. The site is wowdropsim.com. Grats to anyone who got it!
I saw it drop and rolled an 81. Thought it was in the bag but someone rolled a 99 Q_Q

Comment by nicalapegus

Incorrect. My friend got on his HH Reigns and hopped into my Mekgineer's Chopper... Still showed him on his mount.

Comment by blinketyblink

so if you dont have epic riding and you get this or the ebon blade flyer and then you buy epic flying does the mount speed change?

Comment by Chocheta

Yes, the mount scales to whatever riding skill you have.

Comment by Chocheta

Anyone with this mount DC whenever you try to swim with it? I have to remember to steer clear of all water that is too deep to just run through.

Comment by NailinPalin

As of the newest build of the 3.2 PTR....

Headless Horseman's Mount is now instant cast.

Now non-druids can be sneaky lil' hookers and fly away the moment they leave combat. I see this mount quickly becoming the hands-down preference for everyone.

Comment by Adross

This is now instant cast on the 3.2 PTR

Source: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=69505.0 (Scroll down to Spell Comparison - Mounts)

Comment by gltessier

our guild leader's mage won this roll for it a 100-100
hooray but seriously, i envy him more now

Comment by Unhlybullets

Actually it costs 950g -.-
I bought it on mine because I thought the Epic Flyers cost 1k gold, but sadly found out that it was a rip-off and now im down 1k gold, and probably would have epic flying skill now.

Comment by Isolte

Screenshot of my mounted mount doing Argent Tourney dailys:

Comment by Isolte

I'd DC when mounting up on the HH mount and flying off the boat as soon as I zoned into Borean Tundra (boat from Stormwind to BT). So I just wait a few seconds after zoning b4 I mount up and go.

Comment by Isolte

I was trying to find more solid info on if this "instant-cast HH mount" business is true, and I found this: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/13/18031189732-headless-horsemans-mount-is-now-instant-cast.html

Still too bad for everyone but druids...=( Looks like HH mount is not gonna be instant in the next patch. The tooltip is messed up in ptr and doesn't show a cast time. Got everyone with a HH mount all excited.. GG Blizz.

Comment by Medyazgeflyzer

At exalted, the price (last time I remember) was 700g. To me that is completely outrageous, as even though it scales to riding, buying a rare gryphon and an epic gryphon from http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=20510 in Wildhammer Stronghold, Shadowmoon Valley only costs 300g total. So in WoW reality you are paying an extra 400g at least for no advantage.

Comment by SodiumIon

One rather annoying thing about this mount is the green smoke that trails it body (not the flames on the feet).
It's all right when you are riding on the ground, but when you are flying the smoke blows into the screen, giving the screen a flicking appearance.

Comment by Serrehsieth

can any1 with the mount say how many kills it took them to see it drop?

Comment by Serrehsieth

just wanted to state that this macro doesn't work in Dala or WG in progress, probably bc those locations are still considered "flyable" while actually theyre not =)

Comment by Dakai

I got mine after roughly 20 kills, doing it five times each day. Only seen it drop once in all my times killing HH.

Comment by Arathian

questions:as this count as both flying and land mount
1)can it swimm?Usual flying mounts can't and usual land mounts can,but this is a hybrid
2)if the answer to 1 is yes it can,then can you fly from the water?

Comment by vaeg

In my oppinion, this is by far the best mount for an affliction warlock. As soon as hallow's end rolls around I will be trying for this mount as much as possible every day.

Comment by Qrocks

would i be able to loot this item from the horseman with a 44 but with a 70 or 80 to help me kill him?
could i get this mount from trick or treating or by smashing the large jack-o-lantern? i might be able to lvl up from 44 to 65 by the time it starts but i would have to hurry my leveling.

Comment by avatarofshadow

I hate to be the "got it on the first kill" guy, but I got it on the first kill last year.

Of course, 15 fights a day and I never got a kodo or ram this year, so.... I used up all my luck.

Comment by nekrogre

i hope i get this mount .. the brewfest kodo didnt drop for me stupid karma ...you know what tehy say about karma is a ......

Comment by goneguy

ACTUALLY..i would have to say that an items lvl (200+) would make it "epic" or not...since its item lvl is 40..it is NOT epic..

Comment by seltek

Not necessarily because there are items that are epic for level 40,s , 60's and 70,s they are all counted as epics so item level just scales with the expansion and level. Before WOTLK and even TBC there were epics that was not 200+

Comment by Shisno

which is why it says the only epic "mount" not item

Comment by kasuturo

"Yo dawg i herd u like riding so we put a horse in ur crocodile so u can mount while u mount"

Comment by Wolfwarrior

Hmm. I have an idea. If it scales with Riding Skill. May it become 310% after geting a 310% Protodrake?

Comment by Dumpinglemur

no...it isnt. duh!

Comment by mynewbattlenet

just got this mount.. and took it to Outlands... I have epic riding skill and flying.. this Mount does not fly.... it is possable it takes Artisan riding skill now... any comments for this year would be helpful.

Comment by Otore

Just got mine today and was slightly disapointed that it doesn't adjust on it's own when it goes from ground mount mode to flying mount mode. Basicly it acts as two seperate mounts in one when you have epic flying. So don't expect to hit Borean Tundra from Stormwind and hop in the air to fly, you'll have to dismount and remount first. Same with Dalaran, it won't turn into a ground mount the moument you land, you'll either get dismounted from the de-buff or un mount on your own.

Still a super cool mount, but it'd be cooler if Blizz made it auto adjust to the enviorment!

Comment by altho

Unfortunately, despite what others write here, there is not an increase in the droprate for the mount. It is all just a coincidence that a few people have seen it drop several times.

I am now up to 77 kills on Headless Horseman and I have not yet seen "The Horseman's Reins"

The helm dropped for the first time just a few runs ago...

Don't know if it has been mentioned before but most of the items seems to be on diffrent loottables.
I've seen pet, sword, ring and broom drop at the same time.

p.s
I killed him about 700 times last year without even seeing the horse...

Comment by gravelayer

After 3 years of doing this I was lucky enough of getting the mount to drop in the 1st attempt today and actually won it.

Comment by Gozin

Seeing as last year I did 837 runs, and so far I have done 15 and got nothing - it seems like God hates me.

Comment by 2OfDiamonds

It was put into the game last year (2008), previous years did not have this item.

Comment by 2OfDiamonds

Still a super cool mount, but it'd be cooler if Blizz made it auto adjust to the enviorment!

Crikey! How many complaints were there about this mount before you '2009 hallow's end guys' showed up?
BAWWW this BAWWW that, seriously, be happy you got a one of a kind mount that few people have and zip your ^&*!ing mouth.
It's been like this since implementation, I should know because I've had it since day one.

If you are gonna be ungrateful, do it somewhere else. Now sit in the corner and keep your trap shut!

Comment by Granall

sorry to crush your dreams, but...
Just 2 hours after the start of hollows eve on my server, I saw a dk with the helm, the blade, and the mount. He got them all in 1 run.

Comment by Drahkir

I'm definitely not arguing with your general sentiment, but to say that someone is trying hundreds of times a day is a gross exaggeration. Each player only gets one try a day. If you're in a group of five where no one has tried yet, you'll get five. Some unscrupulous players may get more opportunities by cheating their fellow players, but I highly doubt anyone is racketing anywhere near a hundred tries a day.

Comment by Desperada

Question, is this mount tradeable to other group members who participated in the kill like most bop epics are?

Comment by Kalx

Yes it is.

Comment by Dalac

I got this mount in TBC and it scales on you riding skill but it does work diffrentley than other fly mount although, for example when i am farming herb's i have my mount bound to a key on my mouse but the diffrence from a regular fly mount is that when you have a regular fly mount bound you can automaticlly dismount even though you are still in the air i have tested this and this is not possible to do while in the air of the headless horseman mount you can't dismount with a key binding in the air on it but you can of course dimount normally of it.

Comment by Jailen

My Little Demon Pony, My Little Demon Pony...
I comb and brush his flaming hair.
My Little Demon Pony, My Little Demon Pony
Tie a rusted chain to show how much I care
My Little Demon Pony, My Little Demon Pony...
I take him wherever I go.

*stops singing my Little Demon Pony* what? >.>

Comment by Gnerdrage

I don't think they meant one person killing him hundreds of times. I assume they meant that he's downed hundreds of times every day in general.

Comment by tooWhite2ball

It seems to tilt and lean if you are on a hill. Not sure if this is a bug but it's very cool

Comment by JV3r8

True, I did get lucky, but until the drop rate is estabilished, there is no way to really determine positively just how lucky I got since it was my first attempt of the year.

I guess it helped that 2 guildies already had the mount and the other 2 were on alts.

BTW, flying a on horse galloping on the air is priceless.

Comment by FattyMoBookyButt

until the drop rate is estabilished

Hopefully we'll know soon, but to add to a short-lived fire, I've seen the mount drop twice in my first 7 kills. I then went another 8 or 9 kills with no mount drops.

Now, if the drop rate is still at 0.2% (0.002) from previous years; I've witnessed something near a RNG miracle. Otherwise, blizz may have bumped the drop rate.

Comment by chicers

i think i made a stupid plan i WIN MOUNT WOOT and then get a 10k gold offer and sell it then he guy i sold to has blade and helm along with mount and pet IT IS SO AWSOME SO NOW MY BLADE HELM AND PET ARE USLESS WITHOUT THE DARN MOUNT

Comment by chicers

BLADE+HELM+PET+MOUNT ALL USED TOGETHER=SICKEST THING YOULL SEE YOULL EVER SEE IN YOUR LIFE!

Comment by MMkakashi

I had today! =) On the 1rst time I saw it drop. ^^ But to fly with it, sometimes we have to remount it.

Comment by Magix

This droped on both my character but i didn't won on any of them i want it so bad :(

Comment by smorgasborg

1% to 2% drop

Comment by dakkenz

I got this mount yesterday its really cool.Im on Gnomeregan now all i need is the sword and the helm woot.And as the other guy said before me its got only about a 1% or 2 % drop rate iv done it on all my alt's and it never drops for them.It took me 6 kills to get it on my lock.

Comment by 8inchunbuffed

cool, a flying horse

Comment by Geinto

Following that:

Rolls:
5: 13-26%
4: 16-33%
3: 22-43%
2: 33-65%

At least, I think. I could have done my math wrong. All of the percentages were rounded.

Comment by awbemauler

Very nice mount!

Comment by Deathfollows

This is a rare mount that drops from the HH (Headless Horseman) It changes on riding skill, which meens if u have normal flyer training it goes at 60% ground speed and 150% flight, as for epic flyer it transforms from 60% ground 150%flight to a 100% ground 280% flying mount. It is very cool and I would love to get one. The drop rate is insanely low and i wish this mount would drop!

Comment by Rynai

that's what she said

Comment by Armonis

Appears be in a constant cloud of green...farts?

Comment by sehimes

With the reported drop rate of .3% last year and currently .4% drop rate listed this year make the waste of time vs. chance of getting mount very lopsided.

Basically, if you get the squishy pet, don't bother with making the long run to SM, enduring the mush pit, getting into a group and getting nothing in return. Mount is nice, but not worth the time nor effort to get it by itself.

Comment by foundation68

Just one small comment which may or may not have been posted already:

To change from ground to flying mount you first have to dismount and mount again.
So do NOT jump off of Krasus' Landing before you did this or you will really hurt yourself. =P

I did get the mount last night and it truely is one of the best mount designs in WoW, imho. For those still farming it: Good luck!

Edit on the droprate: The competition for Wowhead (i.e. Thottbot) puts the droprate for this at 0.1%. Wow Armory puts the droprate at 1 - 2%. So I guess it'll be somewhere in between those numbers.

Comment by chris10218

its gone down over night from 0.7% to 0.4% lol

Comment by Undeadlord

Id like to dedicate my getting of this mount to frozenlilly, one of my best friends, who gave it to me and completed my collection of Hallow's End items. Your the best Lilly!

Comment by Delwo

Guyz, maybe there is something wrong with my cache , but it says that its 60% ground speed and 150% flight speed ( ye I dont have epic riding now ) . check it out

Comment by Delwo

Guyz, maybe there is something wrong with my cache , but it says that its 60% ground speed and 150% flight speed ( ye I dont have epic riding now ) . check it out

Comment by Delwo

guyz , maybe there is something wrong with my cache , but it says its 150% flight speed and 60% ground speed ( yea, I dont have epic flying yet ). Check it out

Comment by telal

I've killed this guy close to 700 times this week, seen one mount.

Comment by Cobros

Unlike the Brewfest mounts for 2009 it appears this mount did not recive a upgraded drop chance from that of Hallows End 2008 and as such have the same chance as last year.

Comment by Deathturtle

Ok, thought I would throw in my experiences in trying for this mount.

In 2008, I ran HH everyday with three 70’s for an approximate number of summons (some ninja logs, some with extra summons) at 3 x 65 = 195.
In that time I saw ZERO Mounts (where statistically I should have seen ~2)

So far in 2009:
Sunday: 20 Summons ( 4 toons)
Monday: 20 Summons
Tuesday: 20 Summons
Wednesday: 20 Summons
Thursday: 20 Summons: 2 mounts dropped, rolled 2nd on each. (my ‘no mount curse’ is broken!)
Friday: 20 Summons
Saturday: 25 Summons (leveled my mage to 75)
Sunday: 25 Summons
Monday 25 Summons: 1 mount dropped, my Paladin wins with a Need roll of 94 HOORAY!

A total of ~ 540 summons where required for me to acquire this mount. Statistically I should have seen 5 mounts drop, but I only saw three, but obviously I was unlucky in droprate, but lucky enough to offset that with a lucky roll.

So have fun crunching those numbers. I will likely keep summoning each day, as statistically I should see one more mount before the end of the event. I will likely save my summons for my guild, or be in party with my wife to roll on and give her the mount if I win.

For those hoping to get this on a particular toon, I wish you the best of luck. The odds are not in your favor. I was lucky in that of my 5 toons farming for this, one of my top two choices actually got the mount. If you have several toons, the brute force method I have employed seems to work as long as you use all summons everyday. Stay strong, be diligent, you will likely be rewarded.

Comment by fori

argh! been running HH for this every day on my DK

..

first run with my lvl 78 pally.. its drops and i win it

Comment by apzombie

got mine today.. whole group need rolled.. i rolled a 100 :D
only thing i dont like about this mount is the fact that the hooves arent attached to the legs :|

Comment by Deathfollows

I just got the mount. The Drop rate is rare and i love this thing. Drops off the Headless Horseman in Scarlet Monastry Graveyard. after a week and a half of rings i finally have what i always wanted. Will post some screens when i can. Good Luck farmers...only 2 days left.

Comment by jiyu1818

after more than 100 times attempt, finally i had it last night with one of my hunter friend, and he kindly passed it to me...Thanks a lot G!

the mount self is beautiful...especially when I riding her in the air, she somehow shines the entire Northrend...

good luck to all of you who still havent got it yet..2 more days to go!

Comment by Noctemus

After 2 years doing this event, kindda of 430 runs (estimated) it droped!

I lost the roll, rolling 64 against a 82.

Insteresting to mention that the drop rate has updated. After 44.000 kills 139 mounts droped, being 0.3% drop.

Blizzard, you are ridiculous, you put 1-2% drop on your wowgarbagearmory, which is a big bull @#$%!

Thanks God we have wowhead to bring us the truth!

Comment by fordring

this is the perceft/best possible mount to get or that is my opion if you agree with it plz commet

Comment by PinkSugar2

Is the drop rate really still 0.3-0.4%? I've heard over and over how no one has seen it drop in 3 years of running it.

This year, one of my family members won it. Then I saw it drop last night (did not win it). And saw it again this morning and DID end up with it. This was my first year running Headless Horseman and I only did it once a day on one toon. Is this really a string of luck or are they dropping a little bit more than prior years? (I'm really shocked I saw it at all because after running Brewfest several times a day, every day, I didn't see a single mount drop at all)

Comment by Maddroxx

ive seen this drop one time durring this entire holiday. 5 kills a day x 13 days and it drops once. next year a tad higher than a .01 percent droprate would be nice. hint hint Blizzard.

Comment by dbfblackbull

Does anyone know if this mount goes to 310% flight speed if u have a 310% mount already? Like the druid flight form?

Comment by Aeolyn

Another year's time, friend, you'll have to wait. And when reins you do see; you'll roll only an eight. Ah~hahahahaha!

Comment by Dalac

Comment by GeneticArmor

The mount dropped twice in one run for me and my group, right after eachother.

I won the second one.

Comment by KingdomKnight

I don't care how much of an *** it'll make me seem if this drops I'm NEEDING it.

Comment by manpha

where is this mount drop,...?

Comment by IbFeeshin

Congratulations everyone who has this, when 3.3.3 comes pretty much everyone is going to have this! You're not special anymore!

Comment by Chromell

That's not how it reads to me, it sounds like instead of having at least one chance per party member, you get ONE chance and ONE chance ONLY per day.

True, however, keep in mind that this is ONE chance ONLY per day that you DON'T have to worry about losing on the roll. Even if this hadn't changed, I'd still go to SM with my pally alone and be very satisfied to have just 1 kill per day during Hallow's End and not risk leaving there disappointed if the mount had dropped and I hadn't win the roll.

Comment by Possibly

I'm very disappointed with the loot changes for the holiday bosses. Ways other people got it before are now going to be unavailable. And for why? They didn't like people bringing in alts even if the alts were giving up their own attempts? Unless it gets changed to account bound this sucks.
Me, I had been saving up over 10k gold to offer to whoever won the mount before they used it, but I'm starting to suspect it won't even be team tradable, with the change to the occulus bags. They used to be tradable to other party members for two hours but I did it today and they aren't.
This is the mount I want most in the game. But I got a tiny chance to get it now with no way to improve the odds.. like others who got it previously were able to.

Comment by wow112

It says it requires level 20, so if a level 35 rides it will it still go100% speed or it scales with level, OR? is it that if your too low u cant get it

Comment by Mazovoid

I see alot of people with this, so I don't know if the drop rate is THAT low...

Comment by nostatic

let me prepare for next halloween:

as an 80 hunter that will be specced for BM tanking, is it possible to solo this boss? can i farm it repeatedly in one day or is there a reset i have to wait for?

last halloween, this mount did drop for me but i lost the roll and since it was such a long time ago, i honestly dont remember how the mechanics worked.

Comment by CresentVulf

One thing thats been bothering me is w/ the change to the pet in Ahune this year, I've been wondering if they are planing to do that to more of the mounts/pets. i really hope not. :(

Comment by tmptfate

With the release of the Cataclysm expansion, this mount will scale up to 310% riding if you have a 310% from somewhere else. :)

Comment by Necronguy

Scrub this was put in the game with the first time Halloween rolled out in vanilla, it couldn't fly which was a change added later when BC came out and everyone nearly shat themselves about it, and those luck few who did have it were pleasantly surprised when they found out it could fly

Comment by Deathbringer41

Without a dout, the coolest holiday mount in the game

Comment by Unholydrago

Will the droprate be rapidly increased? Assuming that, the mount drops in the Goody-Bag you recieve after the first daily kill.. giving you one chance per day to claim this wonderful prize? 13 possible chances throughout the holiday? Am i correct or ?

Could someone just fill me in on the situation of the Headless Horseman encounter and loot, for this year? (2010)

Comment by Ascha

I pretty much can't wait for Hallow's End next week. Last year, I was a 30ish toon and couldn't do Headless Horseman boss. (Haven't been playing that long.) I can't wait for my chance for the mount. Looked wicked (no pun intended) seeing people fly with those...

This is without a doubt, my favorite event in World of Warcraft.

Comment by Shofie

As of 4.0.1 the Headless Horseman's Mount received animation updates and now his walking animation and jumping animation are on par with all the other current horse animations.

Comment by Shofie

As of 4.0.1, no, you cannot trade mounts like this anymore, because of the nature of the new holiday boss loot system.

:(

Comment by Keijupoika

Just got it, first try.

Also saw two other guys in Dalaran with it - Have they upped the drop rating?

Comment by Ashvael

Confirmed the mount now drops from the bag.

A friend of me got it on our first run tonight, wondering if it was just really lucky or if the droprate got buffed to compensate for the only "once/day".

Comment by Azrilar

Now only found via the Loot-filled Pumpkin, same as the Coren Direbrew keg at Brewfest. I have seen several individuals get this on their first try, so either the rng is messed up or its intended.

Comment by aaron1uk

Mine dropped on my first try also, as well as many others shouting about it in trade i'd say the drop rate has increased.

Comment by Brosky

Got mine on the first try also..I hop eI was just extremely lucky and it wasn't buffed..it would detract from showing it off and owning it. Stop making everything so damn casual and easy Blizz - that WILL be your downfall. First 310% speed as a buyable object, now this..

Comment by vedekandy

It's possible that they've upped the drop rate, either intentionally or through a bug (the event glitched upon starting 2-3 times for our group, and a few of us were repeatedly DCed) - but I, too, got mine on the first attempt :) It looks very nice indeed.

I've seen a couple of people riding these around in Dalaran, and quite a few people claiming they'd just got them; but since none were willing to link the achievement to show the date, who knows if they're being entirely honest ;)

Comment by hellomynameis

I read something about droprates are set to a set number of drops per hour, while grinding mote of fire back in the day, if more where grinding there, I got less motes per hour even with the same amount of mobs killed. So if this mount drops alot the first hour, it will get lower droprate the next hour to compensate and even it out. With Brewfest it was also like this, most got theirs the first day or two, and then almost never dropped the rest of the event.

I know, if it is 1% drop, it is 1% drop. Before you flame me, please link a blue post saying its a set % droprate. Cause until I see that, I will continue to believe what I do. :)

GL on getting this :)

Comment by scoorpy

as for what u said hellomynameis the drop rate is by ours its not true coz ive done brew fest every single day when the daily resets and nothing dropped for me but it did drop for my alts as the ram and the kodo so i think its like account drop rate to any char u get it with unlike the hourly thing coz i only received the helm with my main and nothing with my alts. So logically from what i experienced from this system is doesn't matter what day as long as it goes like a drop rate per person and by account i think as well

Comment by Screwnicorn

I got one on my 2nd run after a very bugged start, a friend of mine got hers after a buggy run too.

However, this is just correlation with an extremely small sample size, during a week where bugs and crashes are to be expected, so make of it what you will.

Comment by Brosky

I can confirm that the buggy start is what prolly makes it drop..I had 2-3 ppl dc right when we went in. We waited for them to come back and started the event during which 1 other person dced. We finally managed to kill him (just barely due to the dc and lag) and get the bag.

Due to some RL problem, I only opened my bag after 10-15 min later and there it was, the dark, gritty horse..I was in shock (I rarely have so much luck) and forgot to fraps the epicness..

Anyway, good luck to everyone and keep in mind that this might just be due to the fact not a lot of ppl were doing the boss and like someone else said earlier in this thread - the fewer ppl that farm something - the higher the drop rate.

Comment by hellomynameis

Brewfest, I did it every day on 4 of my chars. I got 6 mounts the 2 first days, and nothing for the rest of the 2 weeks. Sure, it could be a coincidense... Or it could be the droprate was hotfixed.. Or it could be what I wrote..
Statisticly its a samplesize of (4x15days?=60 bags) 60, where 6 drops happened the 2 first days(4x2days=8 bags). 6 out of 8 it dropped on the 2 first days. 0 out of 52 the following days. As for small samplesizes, I do have abit more than the average wowplayer has to go on personally. But hey, its more of a feeling than proof anyways, just wanted to mention it.

Comment by neogramps

Same here, I dc'd, logged back in 10 minutes later with the loot bag and the reins waiting for me inside! Don't care if it's more common now, it's still a bad ass mount

Comment by OleMarYUlberg

Or if you learned the new Master Riding Skill for another 5000g

Comment by hellomynameis

One Horse to rule them all,
One Horse to ride them,
One Horse to bring them all
and in the darkness guide them.

Comment by FadeFu

"There is no loot." Damn you, Blizzard! Got back in after a freeze. Horseman was down to half health by that point. Opening my Loot-Filled Pumpkin yielded that.

Comment by LordVarbaro

I dc-ed too, and no mount.

Comment by Minxette

Same thing happened to me. Had to reboot my pc three times. Didn't even kill the boss but the group I was in apparently did and the mount was in the bag.

Comment by Laverinth

That happened to me too, so you're not alone.

Comment by Tateman

Got my mount in the drop tonight. Noticed there were 3 others running around Dal with it. Head a few people got it tonight. Maybe a better drop rate this year?

Comment by Mavertos

I got the mount on both of my 80's tonight. I think they must of changed it or I just have good luck.

Comment by Drekor

Is this dropping from both the boss and the bag or just the bag now?

Comment by hxcninja

Yeah same here got my mount first run. but after my screen freezing annoying, but it was totally worth it coming back on and defeating HHM and getting my mount of the loot bag. gl peeps

Comment by Darthpi

This just means there was no loot in the bag. It's the same as getting 2 frost emblems and nothing else from the Coren Direwbrew bag - except, now you get 24 justice points instead.
Just try again tomorrow =)

Comment by lillicat

You will get the "there is no loot" message if you do not get a pet, helm, or mount. This is intentional. You still receive 24 justice points.

Comment by momoe

please update this to where it comes from the bag

Comment by Rach3l

(Posting as a reply to the first comment to increase visibility for patch 4.0/2010 version)

Just like the change to ahune and other holiday events, you can loot one bag from the horseman per day. Subsequent runs in the same day are pointless to obtain either the helm, the mount, or the pet. But they are good if you want the epic rings, pumpkins to put on the heads of other races (for Check Your Head), or more tricky treats (for Out With It).

Comment by gabgab86

I got this mount from the seasonal "Loot-Filled Pumpkin" today. just queue up for The Headless Horseman in Dungeon Finder during Hallow's End. Also gives 24 Justice Points.

Comment by zurbek

Just a confirmation. I did get the mount today and it indeed scales with 310% riding.

Comment by Giantfoamhat

got mine this morning also. Tooltip does read 310%

Comment by Tchernobyl

Just got this! Not on my main, but oh well.

The important part that warrants a new comment, however:

When you use this mount in dalaran, it is a normal ground mount. However, if you run onto krasus' landing, you can take off immediately without remounting.

Similarly, if you fly down and land on the ground, the dismounting debuff will NOT dismount you. If it ticks down and you're still in the air though, it will.

Now if only I could send this to my main... >_>

Comment by Cromulon

From what I've seen the droprate on this mount is basically like the Brewfest Kodo/Ram.

Everyone and their mother will have one by the end of this holiday.

Comment by Tchernobyl

I certainly hope so! My main is my mount collector :P

Comment by Fjuskn

Only the bag. Aslo, i got it on 3 of my level 80's. So... I will say that its NOT 0,3% drop chance. Please fix....

Comment by dragonknight2300

I certainly hope NOT, i did coren every day and never saw either mount. Only thing i got besides emblems was the remote once. I realy want this thing on my main too as ive ran out of pets to collect <.<

Comment by Rikaku

I'm guessing that yes, the drop rate was increased. I saw about 4 people on my realm get this mount just 5 mins after the event began, all of whom did their first run of the year.

I'm guessing it was probably up'd because now you can't (or rather, don't need to) run this 5x a day. As in years prior, everyone usually got about 5 turns a day as each person had the daily. Now, since the mount is in the loot bag, I'm guessing the chance to drop was increased to reflect the "1 chance a day" you get.

Comment by N1CXZ

Now that the HH mount drops in the loot bag, it is not a trade-able item. Even if you got a group together instead of using the Dungeon Finder tool, no item that drops in the loot bag is trade-able. QQ for anyone that was willing to pay good money for that mount.

Comment by Vlob

Confirmed drop from Loot-Filled Pumpkin

Comment by Tradissa

Logged on today during lunch break to run HH, 1 run, 1 Mount drop.

Glad I logged in.

I have 9 80's so I hope I get lucky 8 more times.

Comment by menemew

It has and always will have 1 % drop rate. The lowest ever was on Ashes of Al'ar as it was the only dropped mount that was 310 % and it was also on Rivendare's Deathcharger as it was a free epic mount that'd save you 1 k g in classic. That drop rate was 0.1 % but is now 1 % along the rest of the rare stuff. Never been anything lower than that, never will.

Comment by detination

Just got it today, first time doing the encounter aswell ^^ always wanted this mount, i'll use it all the time now :)

Comment by Beret

Nine 80s? You, sir, need a new hobby. I hear knitting is the rage these days.

Comment by aerion

Tried to get the helmet this evening, did 6 runs and no helmet dropped.
4 people got the mount.

I've tried getting this horse for 3 years, maybe over 200 attempts in total.
4 people got the mount in my group in one day.

I wanna die now. Or maybe kill one of the nice devs as a virgin sacrifice to the number gods...

Comment by xarthan

did they up the droprate on the mount? I got one yesterday on my warlock and another one just now on the priest. Or was I just lucky on the RNG?

Comment by Seribic

I definatly think they upped the droprate. Its the first day and there are tons of people riding around on them. Not exactly the rare golden ring it used to be. :/

Comment by Aerozia

rare my ass, this thing is hard as hell to get, the droprate has NOT been increased for all US servers, if you're not american blizz might let you get the mount, but its impossible for anyone who wants it to get it.
same as with the brewfest mounts, they dont put a droprate in there.

Comment by Feliciamarie

I've got 19 80s, yes 19. I had two of these mounts drop while doing the first HH daily today on all of them. They up his drop-rate? Or maybe I just got extremely lucky, lol.

Comment by Mbowling

What the hell are you talking about? 4x15? 2x7...

7 days in a week 2 weeks in the brewfest month. Idiot.

Comment by azuki123

Do the HH reins just drop in the bags or does the HH himself drop it?

Comment by azuki123

Does this just drop in the bags or does it drop off raw HH?

Comment by flameroller

Also, he misunderstood how drop rates work. It doesn't matter how many times you run the instance, the drop rate does not change. The rate is established by blizzard at a certain percentage and the game creates the loot table at the moment of death (or creation of the loot bag in this case).

Comment by geovolt

The Reins are obtainable ONLY from the bag that you get from killing him via the random dungeon tool, once per day.

I think they've upped the drop rate, too. I ran it today on 5 different toons and saw it drop 4x... including on one of my toons.

Comment by Cerisea

It a chance drop from the Loot-Filled Pumpkin which you get from the first HH you do every day.

Comment by Falstad007

Got it on my first try :D

Comment by malminos

im hearing a lot of stories of people getting mounts too. Maybe they increased droprates? *shrug*

Comment by sTyLnK

What's the new drop rate for this mount? Anyone have any idea?

Comment by rannmann

Uprate if you think this should bind to account. There's nothing worse than logging on an alt you haven't played since the last holiday boss and getting it first drop when your main is a mount collector and never gets it.

Comment by Extelle

Yes, it does count as a ground mount. Not sure where you got that.

Comment by Extelle

I'm not so sure about that. In 2 nights, five of my friends got this mount. I'm seeing them everywhere now. I think that they upped the rate significantly since you can only try for it once per day now.

If not, it's one (censored) of a coincidence.

Comment by Jagoex

Apparently, the drop rate within the loot-filled pumpkin isn't static, according to a GM I spoke with about an hour ago.

http://yfrog.com/ca9g8ej

In other parts of the conversation, he basically confirmed that actions taken by a player can increase the potential that the mount will drop, but he gave no clue as to what these actions may be. And seeing people getting them on their first try makes me scratch my head, and it's very frustrating for someone who has been farming this thing for a 3rd Hallow's End to see that happen, consistently.

Any thoughts?

Comment by Danaan

Out of 24 kills (8 toons * 3 days) I've seen the mount three times.
So for me its 12,5% dropchance, but i need more data to be accurate.

The sword only dropped once (4.6%), the pet dropped three times (12.5%)

Comment by Highwaydawg

Got it and the pet first try. Either very high drop rates or very lucky. =D

Comment by AdultX

on the first day, i ran my 4 80's and i got the mount on one of them and there was one person each time that got the mount, so the drop rate is not the same as last year it is higher. Before yesterday i had only seen the mount drop once in the past couple years, now it was every run someone got it in their bag.

Comment by Znip

I just got this on my main. Game crashed on loading SM, i relogged and opened the loot bags.. and there it was. :)

Comment by theramoar

My 11yr got this on his first try.

Three years and eight characters at level cap and nothing.. FML

Comment by Frostyrune

I Logged on right at 1am pst to do this got disconnected on zone in quickly scurried back in game...found they killed him without me but waitied for me to log back in i was amazed that i still got credit and a treasure goody bag...i then proceeded to open the bag and to my amazement BAM i had both the mount and the squashling in the same goody bag the group then proceeded to QQ and my smile irl got wide as i rubbed it in that i was dced and was only lucky one and they could go suck my ***** = D

funny i have the mount on my shaman but decided to run it on my new wrath main deathknight seeing as i havent bothered doing world events on him since wrath launched

Got Ram and kodo from brewfest first day got headless horseman and the raven lord mount on hollows end *launch day so my guilds been giving me a bad time about sucking off the loot gods but iono im just lucky.

Comment by Skeeziks

Wonder if this has something to do with being under the effects of candy and/or a costume?

Can anyone who's gotten this on their first try confirm they had any special effects on them at the time?

Comment by whitehusky

If they upped this drop rate, I am very glad of it! I haven't seen one yet on the six toons I ran on, but hoping I get it on my main. Been after this for three years now. I don't care if everyone gets one as long as I get it. Doesn't matter to me if it's a rare or common mount. I just think it looks cool and I hate how it's not only a low drop rate but is also only obtainable for two weeks out of the year!

Comment by Stiitch

Saw this same event, Reins dropped for me and another person in the same run. Then ported to Dalaran and "saw" 3 achievements pop for the reins... Not looking a gift horse in the mouth, just observing a large increase in the rate of apparent drops.

Comment by nokz

I got this on my first kill (Day 1 of event). I either got extremely lucky or had a bug work in my favor. This new patch is buggy, so I thinked it bugged out and gave it to me. I will test it tonight with a guild member to confirm.

Edit: To clarify, a series of events happened prior to his death. I think it's the bug and is easily replicable.

Comment by Telkir

I also got both the mount and the Sinister Squashling in the same loot pumpkin today. Whether it's relevant or not I don't know, but it was my 2nd login in two days, after having a break of a few months (though I left my account active in the meanwhile)...

Comment by seaniboii

Just had to sayy this in these photos the HEADLESS horseman dosent look very headless i mean he acctually has a head :P

Comment by noelxx

http://yoyodawgdawg.com/pics/yo-dawg-the-original.jpg

Comment by rwc117

I ran the boss 5 times yesterday, and got the mount twice. The only correlation I could see between the characters which won the horse and those who didn't, is that the ones who won the horseman's reins both have the 'Hallowed' title.

The three who didn't have the title, didn't win the mount. Now, I could go and work my ass off to get the Hallowed title and test it out, but I have other flying mounts slated for those characters anyway. (Netherwing mount, etc.)

Meanwhile, having my Warlock riding a demon-horse around Dalaran is the bomb.com.

Other than that, I was under no particular spells or effects.

Comment by Heretic666

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/xzibit-yo-dawg

Comment by Urythmic

Well, that would certainly make sense. Nice perk for those who already have the title to finally get their mounts.

Thanks!

Comment by DarionIllidan

Couldn't believe my eyes, but it dropped in my first bag from killing the Headless Horseman the first time in my 2 years of playing. Also got Baleful Blade and the broom!

Comment by Colvyn

I got it as a balance druid in balance form, first kill. No event related buffs/debuffs other than the trick or treat debuff from innkeepers.

Comment by rannmann

Dungeon Crash Rate > Mount Drop Rate.

Comment by Killzar

This is a beautiful mount for anyone lucky enough to get one...

It has a weird habit of leaning to random sides while running though.

Comment by mrbbobg

just got it twice in two runs the first one on my warrior and switched to my dk and blam it dropped again either it was pure luck or blizz changed drop rate

Comment by Znip

I love the looks of this mount, it does fit the looks of a warlock/shadowpriest. :)

Comment by Earthbullet

in 2 days of running its been in the bag twice on my druid now if only it wasnt bop

Comment by Benzieja

OMG this mount is amazing in patch 4.0.1 with the new flying skill and with the ability to fly in azaroth soon this is going to be amsazing

Comment by polloi

I play 5 persos and on 10 bags opened no mount for the moment.... -__-

Comment by polloi

I play 5 persos and on 10 bags opened no mount for the moment.... -__-

Comment by Cyonisper

Hate to break it too you... but... That makes this mount EXACTLY the same as any other mount ingame.
The only cool thing is that it will level with your ridding skills, otherwise ALL (Flying)mounts will be both Ground and Flying.

Comment by Chaserbl

THERE IS NO LOOT

Comment by gummyrabbit

Dual-box queued this morning on my warrior tank and elemental shaman (so I would get insta-queue) and the mount dropped for both toons!

Comment by gummyrabbit

But ground mounts will not be flying.

Comment by Skulli

This mount is great and with the latest changes to mount speed, its not much worse than invincible now.
You have ground and air mount as one. Which allows you for example not to switch mounts in dalaran etc.
If you have master riding, it is 310% as well.

Comment by kreed1228

I can't say if this is true or not, but I wore a Flimsy Troll Mask riding my rickety broom with the weighted jack-o-lantern and it was in my bag. I was in Stormwind when I did this. I can't say if doing this helped or not, but seeing that I got this mount while dressed like this and haven't seen it when I haven't it remains to be seen. All I know is that I got it when I was in this "getup". I don't think it would matter but I figured, what the heck, I'll go all out with my Halloween gear.

Comment by Yomigami

3 No loots on my main
1 Blade 1 Broom 280% 1Mount on my warlock alt... WHYYYYYYYYYYY BLIZZZZZ

Comment by Shercko

It's too bad for those who had it before this year's Halloween event - it's just another mount now. It used to be a really rare mount worthy of pride and glory, now it's no more interesting than a mount from your own faction's mount vendor. But I guess all good things come to an end right?

Comment by Scoobie

i think they have defo upped the drop rate for this... i did this on my pally at 3am and got the mount.. then went on my mage and did it on my mage too and got it on that.. then got it on my rogue the next day... 3 more other toons im still waiting to get it on and had no joy yet :(

Comment by Invincible

Got this on my main earlier on The Sha'tar EU.

Nice compensation for the most part of the day having no access to my character and the instance servers failing.

Comment by Shercko

Pride and glory... for winning a random roll on a faceroll 5-man holiday boss?

It had like a 1% dropchance. Don't try and tell me you wouldn't be wildly happy if you ever got one, smartass.

Comment by shadowhunter4786

As of 4.0.1 all mounts scale to riding skill, this includes land mounts and flying mounts, normal and epic.

Comment by Hemingray

Today I witnessed true RNG. After doing the daily Headless Horseman dungeon, in my bag I received:

1. Sinister Squashling
2. Hallowed Helm
3. The Horseman's Reins
4. Flying Broom

To say I was completely blown away would be a huge understatement. (For verification, here is my wowarmory page for proof of the achievements tied to items 1, 2 and 3.)

I'm not posting this to brag; rather, demonstrate that it is possible to get all of these items at once. (The item page for the reward bag isn't yet in the wowhead database, so it seems this would be one of the most appropriate pages to post it on at the moment.)

Edit: Apparently nobody cares, so I'll delete this comment.

Comment by Shofie

Not really. It's only available for two weeks out of an entire year; and tons of people who get it this year will potentially stop playing before next year, or just decide not to use the mount as much. Basically, the farther away from Hallow's End it gets, the more rare the Horseman's Mount becomes again. There's always a surge of them around the holiday where they come from, but it always kind of dies down after awhile.

I don't care how common it becomes, I will still treasure mine and ride it always, however.

Comment by Shofie

I don't think the necessarily increased the drop rate, for what it's worth; I think it's just that instead of only a chance of one mount dropping per run, there's a (albeit) slim chance that 5 people can get it from the same boss.

Comment by shoover56

oh we would be happy we got it, but wouldnt feel special or unique since thats what you are saying its all about

Comment by Jagoex

I'm not going to read too much into this, but after applying my "the Hallowed" title on my rogue, the epic sword dropped. I want to believe the title may increase the drop rate of all items so very badly, but without more info, I will remain optimistically skeptical... if that makes sense. :)

Comment by defleksiyon

I got it on my first try the first day of the event and i had nothing on me except my mainhand and offhand poisons. I had completed "the hallowed" title requirements last year btw.

Comment by AlternateTheory

I'm pretty sceptical of this.

But the screenshot shows that the GM also "nodded" when asked if the drop rate information would be posted before hallows end is complete... So ask yourself this - do you think Bliz will come out and post this information?
If the answer is no, do you think that a gm "nodding" to the other question is something you could rely on?

Of course, I'd love to hear that all you need to do is be wearing one of these for it to drop
http://www.wowhead.com/item=27944

In fact has anyone checked that yet?

Comment by omglolboom

seems like the drop rate has increased a lot, everyone has it. (im not included)
let me at least get the broom! :<

btw, anyone has bug in the instance? I have to reconnect at least 3 times before i can get in it. I have a fast Pc and updated drivers :\
i dont like the new patch, very buggeh

Comment by Novalilly

Pretty sure they upped it on par with the kodo and ram from brewfest. Seems everyone on the server has one now....

Comment by kylemor92

I'vehad my wow account since last december and this is my first Hallow's end. I got it on my 2nd run. Im really enjoying it.

Comment by Alien93

rawr i just got the mount 2 times row on diffrent char yesterday xD me happy

Comment by Erkthecrux

It's now day five and I still have not gotten my own.

Comment by Erkthecrux

you sound like you're talking about a toy from baddragon.com.

Comment by goatsicle

It's a damned shame that you can't trade this to party members with you during the fight. I was amazingly lucky enough to get a second one of these within three days, and all I can do is discard it. That's terrible, I should have been able to bless one the random party members I met up with. To throw this out kills a little part of me inside :(

Edit: Just wanted to add for anyone that is frustrated about not getting the mount to drop for them: this is my third season of Hallow's End, and I'm finally getting lucky. Like I said, I really wish I could trade you my extra. Happy drops to ya!

Comment by Zeta91

Got this mount today on my first try, but I have been attempting to get it for 3 years now. At first I thought it was now a 100% drop from the bags this year, but after checking here, I guess not. Good luck to all of you, hope you get yours this year!

Comment by Xlich

I have this mount from the first Hallow's End. Last year I was with my brother tried to get and we have not seen a single drop.

This year the event began kill him at 1:10 and got mount, then I kill him with alt and one from the party got The Horseman's Reins, Flying Broom, Sinister Squashling, Hallowed Helm all from same loot.

Yesterday I got another, now I have a two that are in the bag and can't do s**t with them :-(

On my server I have seen at least 20 people with the mount.

If Blizzard have not changed the drop rate, I do not know how they all have so much luck.

I'm a little sad because now almost all have a mount. Before I was one of the few who ride with him through Dalaran.

Sorry for my bad english. I have 0 hours of learning English in my school :-P

Comment by pallylock

Clearly a reference to Paris Hilton because they are both horses.

Comment by azhrarn666

FYI,

I wasn't under any candy buffs, didn't had any pumpkin head nor any masks, costumes, etc. and I did won the Reins after the 2nd day.

The ONLY thing that I can think off is that I was the ONE to call the Horseman on the pumpkin...

In Brewfest, I never spoke/insulted Direbrew...and never won a mount...

This might be the link...the one activating the fight has more chance...

Just my 2 cents.

Now fight to click on that pumpkin ASAP! LOL
(I think I just opened Pandora's box! LOL)

Jin.

Comment by korbendalis

I have 6 level 80 characters and 2 characters that are 78+. In the first 4 days since the start of Hallows End, I've gotten the Pet on 4 of them, and the mount on 3 of them. I have a Flying Broom on all of them. Last year I never saw the Mount drop and I had 4 characters running it daily for the entire event. I believe Blizz wants players to be happy.

Comment by Kaenkun

Got this mount twice on the same character, didn't summon him (it would freeze if i even hovered over the pumpkin), had no candy buffs nor a pumpkin on my head.

Comment by Vladok

Well, now with 4.0.1, EVERY mount in the game scales. :3

Comment by Starhunter

It seems like this mount has higher drop chance than it had previously.

Comment by Rufaduf

Well I have done this every day, and so far the only thing that has dropped from the pumpkin is a stupid dranei mask.... which I already had 2 of. Someone else in the group got the reins and said it was his second horse he got in the past 3 days. Someone share the luck please?

Comment by Stonsen

I wish I was kidding when I say I got this TWICE on the same character.

Comment by Seprest

The drop rate of this has been buffed significantly, by how much I know not. It is the general consensus that drops from the loot-filled pumpkin far exceed the drop rates they had when they were dropped from the boss. Besides the point that the DR is not 5x more likely due to not having to roll on the mount against other people (excluding those who had it already, which used to be very rare).

In a single run all 5 people in my group got the sinister squashling, 2 got the hollowed helm, and one got the mount. On two separate characters I have now seen blue loot dropped for multiple people each run. There has definitely been a change in the drop rates, making this mount much more common, a real pity for those who enjoy variety...

Comment by VoijaRisa

@Extelle: I think part of the reason you're seeing so many around is that many people will ride the ones they've attained in previous years around this time to show off. Thus, what you see isn't necessarily indicative of what's been dropping this year from the Loot-Filled Pumpkins.

Meanwhile, this is my 3rd year doing the event every day and I've yet to ever get it to drop.

Comment by Sindeara

I did this boss five times on a caracter without doing special things, it hasn't come out of the bag a single time.
I also did this boss three times on another caracter with the sinister squashling and wearing the helm. I got it three times in a row.

This could be RNG or something that makes the percentage increase. You should defenitely try it out.

Comment by lizzurd

The droprate on this mount is ridiculous now lol. I got one on my main the first night Hallow's End started and each group I've been in since at least one person gets it.

I'm beginning to believe that each person in the group has a 20% chance to get it. >.>

Comment by mimee21

Broom > no loot > Sword > No loot > mask > ?tomorrow..... Will edit

EDIT 2:
Broom > no loot > Sword > No loot > mask > Broom > ?tomorrow... Will edit

EDIT 3
Broom > no loot > Sword > No loot > mask > Broom > punkinghead/sword/pet/mask / ?tomorrow... Will edit

EDIT 4
Broom > no loot > Sword > No loot > mask > Broom > punkinghead/sword/pet/mask / Mask / ?tomorrow.. will edit

EDIT 5
Broom > no loot > Sword > No loot > mask > Broom > punkinghead/sword/pet/mask / Mask/ Sword,pet,mask ./?tomorrow.... will edit..

EDIT 6
Broom > no loot > Sword > No loot > mask > Broom > punkinghead/sword/pet/mask / Mask/ Sword,pet,mask ./Sword/mask /?tomorrow..... will edit..

*so far as you can see - the drop rate hasn't' OMG increased..- its just plain ass luck... - 5 more edits till I run out of time :( :(

Comment by mariosatr

For me its been:

Hallowed Helm > Hallowed Helm and Broom > No Loot > Hallowed Helm and a mask > Hallowed Helm and a mask

4 Hallowed Helms? wtf

Comment by Novalilly

I'm not talking about old ones. Right after the dailies reset I see anywhere from 5-15 achievments for it in a row. Daily. That is a huge difference form last year when you'd see maybe 1 a day. and that's just after dailies reset, I bet a I'd see a !@#$ton more if I stuck around during peak hours.

Comment by Chaserbl

So much spamming here...........and so little drop rate(sarcasm is my middle name)

Comment by camillabe92

This year they ruined the drop rate; you might have been able to farm it abit last year, but this way, the drop rate is too big.
I got this mount yesterday, and guess what i gto today. Yeah, another... Same char.

Comment by Archijslv

Did the daily 2 days in a row. 2 mounts in a bag. The *!@# blizzard, the !@#$...

Comment by Eluzai

Starting from brewfest this year the droprate of mounts in the bag must have skyrocketed. At least 20 of my guildmates got a brewfest mount or this, even dropping it twice! Unbelievable

(Of course I still have to loot it from my bag)
Sigh, I could really use a little luck

Comment by spleenseer

I'm in a similar boat to this. I've been running the Horseman everyday with both my main and my alt. Yesterday my alt found the Reins. No big deal, just the luck of the draw. Today my alt found another sets of Reins, and just like you I can't use it. I'd like to mail it to my main, but Blizzard won't make it BoA...

Comment by avevitam

I'm not so sure about this. For 5 days now, I've done the daily queue for the horseman for everyone of my toons per day (I have 9 level 80's). So this would result in 45 attempts, but I have yet to see someone else in my group even get this group, little-less myself.

Either I'm incredibly bad luck for myself and anyone in my group, or the drop rate hasn't changed much.

Comment by cadrios

got it yesterday :D:D:D

Comment by xmixaplix

Been reading the posts about the drop rates and I've been doing it since the beginning to now...still haven't gotten the mount on the same toon. I didn't want to bother with my other character since I don't want the mount on them. Is there like some special dance I got to do like I did with the Baron? :X

Comment by bigwangz

Does this only drop from the "loot filled pumpkin"? Or will it drop directly off the boss as a "rolled" drop?

Comment by Surrealblade

It only drops from the loot filled pumpkin this year.

Comment by CamperCarl00

I don't think I'd ever throw it away, it would have a place in my bank for all eternity

Comment by crhonos

I saw someone get the sword, helm, pet, broom, and flimsy mask in one bag. It is possible to get multiple but it is rare. I wonder if you could get 2 mounts.

Comment by Kuuros

SS or it didn't happen.

Comment by MassMan

Not taking small sample size into account, I do find it rather interesting that I wasted a million tries in vain not getting the mount the previous years. And this year I got TWICE in two days (image: http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9903/headlessdropratelol.jpg).

So yeah, confirming the above post that there's definitely something up with the droprate since the change to Loot Filled Pumpkin. It would be very unlikely that it's still 1%.

EDIT: It dropped again for me... http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/503/lololem.jpg
3x horseman reins in 7 days... wtf

Comment by remy

This was the biggest loot bag I ever got: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/tigerjade/Capture.jpg

OR: Hallowed Helm, The Horseman's Reins, The Horseman's Baleful Blade, Flimsy Female Blood Elf Mask.

Anyway, as obvious from the purged comments, I don't think there's a trick to it. From what my friends/guildmates and brother have seen, it's been completely random.

I DO think the droprate has increased (seen 6 mounts between us all), but that still doesn't mean everyone will get it (random is random).

Best of luck to those that want it, really. Whether it becomes common or not, it's still fairly unique compared to other mounts and still pretty cool :)

(bad with links, apparently)

edit concerning the other comment: I never saw anything significant drop from the Horseman's body but the epic rings. I don't think the mount drops from him (that was the case in previous years) and I don't think it's true. I haven't heard anything like this until that comment above.

Comment by wartu

Are you sure it dropped from the horseman directly? That would contradict all the information we've heard about the way holiday bosses work now.

If you did see it, it's a bug.

Comment by PocketFox

I got this mount the very first day on my paladin alt. I have yet to see it on any of my four other 80's despite running every day. Paladins must have a higher chance of getting the mount.

...Yeah, pretty stupid, huh? Just like the insistence that wearing the Hallowed Helm, or having a candy buff, or being the one to click on the pumpkin, will make you more likely to get the reins. RNG is just something you have to learn to live with.

Comment by Escobob

how can that happen ? i thought it only dropped from the loot bag?

Comment by Escobob

how can that happen? i thought it only dropped from loot bag...?

Comment by LoriO

That is EXACTLY what I got in my bag today. Incredible!

Comment by g0ste

it's actually level 78 you will need to be.

Comment by QwestKnyte

I think the drop rate on this mount has to have definately been increased. My girlfriend has got this mount 4x within the last few days. She's got it twice on one of her 3 lvl 80's. I was pretty annoyed at the fact considering i hadn't even got it to drop once and i had been farming the HH for this mount for 2 years now! Today was my day however as i got it in the pumpkin loot bag this morning.

There are definately a lot more of these mounts running around. I find it hard to believe the drop rate is still as low as it has been in previous years. I can't confirm this, but i would think the drop rate would be more along the lines of 10%. I've got atleast 4 of the pets now so they are definately more common.

Comment by Exhorder

Bag dropping 3-4 items now. Just in my group this morning three people got the mount. Possible drop rate hotfix? (EU)

Comment by Urgeman94

Do the mount only drop in the bag? i am level 65 and i really want the mount :3

Comment by Leicad

There is a easy way to give you an extra shot on the mount. Now, i did this in during brewfest too and it worked (got me the kodo when the event was over). Each time you get your Loot-Filled Pumpkin, check what it contains. Make sure not to have autoloot on (thanks to adamsiaca for reminding me). If it does not have the Horseman Reins (or any other item you really want from the bag) in it, simply close it and do not loot anything from the bag (or take the loot in the bag you want, like a flimsy mask or something. As long as the Loot-Filled Pumpkin has atleast one piece of loot in it you're good). Save all your Loot-Filled Pumkins. I use my bank, but it's up to you. Here comes the most important part. Each time there is a server restart, a new patch or if you change faction or server - the loot in your holiday bags will reset! Giving you a extra shot/shots at the mount! This is completely legit and intended, so do not worry about bans of any kind.

TL;DR - Save your Loot-Filled Pumpkins, wait for a server restart, patch - or faction change/server change. The loot in the Pumpkin will reset, granting you a new shot at the mount, incase you missed it this time!

Granted me the Kodo when I did it, and hopefully the HH mount if I happen not to get it in the following week.

GL on your mount runs/bag resets! Hope someone will find this usefull!

Edit: All containers act like this, so i see no reason why it would not work with the Crackled Egg :)
Edit2: And no, you will not get new JP when you open it for the 2nd time. By the way, thanks for all the positive responses. Very happy to help you out! :)
Yet another edit: You can have as many bags as you like, they are not unique. It will still be in your bank/backpack even after the event is over too.

- Babynova of Sylvanas EU

Comment by Tohd

Looking forward to using this in Cataclysm, busting it out around Easter, geared up with all the Horseman's loot, yelling all of the same emotes and confusing the crap out of lowbies in Goldshire.

Comment by adamsiaca

I wish i had known that during brewfest. but thanks anyway, I intend to do this for the rest of the week.

Also, to contribute, If you do this make sure auto loot is turned off, or you could lose a bag.
Also, would this work for the cracked egg?
Good luck. :)

Edit: was supposed to be a reply to Leicad.

Comment by bob3rt

So does this work on multiple server restarts? Let's say I keep some bags up until this Tuesday when the servers go down and I don't get anything in the bags from that week. if I wait until next Tuesday after that the bags will be reset again?

Comment by Systemfail

LIES! The whole reason Blizz made it so that it drops only 1 chance a day is because it's so much easier to farm then last year, thanks to the random finder.

Comment by Bloodsling

Is there a loot bug I'm not exploiting to get the reins? I see pretty much everyone in Dal on this sweet ride,1 guy in my guild has received the reins 5 times..it's quite annoying to seemingly be the only toon on destromath getting naught but masks and sinister squashlings lol.

Comment by OwenOrgasm

I want to thank you, after years of using Wowhead I made an account purely to + this comment.
After getting the sinister 5 @#$%ing times already I wish I had known about this earlier.
One question though if you keep it till after reset do you get another 24 jp?

Edit: Is this a unique item? And will it stay after the event is over?
Basically can you hold the next 7 in your bank and keep opening them till Christmas?

Comment by Viper23rd

Incredibly useful indeed. Thank you so much.

Comment by ssggtt

I completely agree. They must have upped the drop rate on this with the loot-filled pumkin.

This event has barley been going on for a week and two of my toons have already gotten it. There also seems to be hundreds of people running around Dal with it now too.

Has anyone else noticed this?

Comment by modicumofrespite

Question: If you learn the mount with low riding skill and then later pick up artisan, will the mount scale to the new riding skill? It would seem logical, but want to make sure before learning the recently acquired mount. Thanks

Comment by Corvak

The drop rate was improved because you're only summoning him once to get it.

Before, you could typically expect to run him five times a day (group of 5, each with 1 summon). Now, you only get one chance a day, but don't need to roll against your group members to win it.

Comment by Hyourinmaru

Also, try filling up your bags, and let the bag go to your mailbox. I didn't believe it at first when I heard about it, but I did it twice and this morning I got:

Hallowed Helm
Horseman's Reins
Magic Broom
Flimsy Mask

I can't confirm this 100%, but I was shocked to find all of those in my bag ;D

Comment by Leicad

Yes, it will stay even though the event is over :)

Comment by Deminiar

Nice downrating trolls.

Comment by Detscrotes

Brilliant thinking.. I read this yesterday, saved up my bag from this morning (yet another flimsy mask), put it in the bank and will be interested to see what is inside of it after the restart tonight.
Thanks heaps for the idea!

(If it works, I might go and test out to see if this method would work for the Hyldnir Spoils bag that potentially drops the white polar bear mount)

Comment by overlordmike

Hello I noticed this year that more people where getting the reins to drop then previous years. so i opened a ticket to a gm and he said it WAS raised but he was not quite sure by how much. He assumed it was now somewhere between a 5-6% droprate.

if someone from wowhead could contact blizz and get the exact percent. it would be much appreciated. seeing as your site says its still .30% when it has obviously been raised.

have fun all:D

Comment by Iphimedia

Blizzard doesn't give out exact droprates.

Comment by Iphimedia

I'll repeat this again.

There is a chance that the The Horseman's Reins will be inside your Treat Bag, so make sure you trick-or-treat often!

This has been confirmed in-game.

EDIT: Wowhead isn't always 100% up-to-date. Wowhead also still shows most of the PvP gear as having an old honor point value, totals have not been updated to new honor points. Don't downrate something if you can't prove it wrong.

Comment by spizzi

you are not alone :)

Comment by Chromell

Whoever downrated your comment certainly does not want other people to get the mount.

Comment by CarlJohan

As Bobr3t asked, could I save the bags for as long as I wish and attempt the re-loot at every following patch/server-restart from the day of looting it and onwards?

Comment by Escobob

I hope it is true. but i havent seen or heard of anyone getting the mount this way
and according to wowhead the reins is not on the "contains" list.

Comment by Rufaduf

Well I had my celestial steed from level 20 to 80and it has scaled up to 280 flying so I dont thonk the horsemans mount would be any different

Comment by Scarecrowe

Unfortunately this was never the case as this is not how the loot system works. It's possible you had a bag that you never checked sitting in your inventory that had your brewfest mount. However, if you open a treat bag from the horseman and it contains a female troll mask (for example) it will always contain a female troll mask, no matter how many server restarts and maintenance there is.

When you open any loot item that is a container of sorts such as the pumpkin loot from the horseman, the game program treats it like an inventory bag. No amount of server restarts is going to change its contents. If it were to work like Leicad says, every time there was a server restart all the items in your 5 main bags as well as any bags in your bank or guild bank would randomly change into something else.

TLDR: The above strategy does not work nor has it ever worked as any container you receive in the game is treated as an inventory bag and the contents do not change.

Comment by Bulldaddy

Gotten it 4 times in 3 days, on 4 different characters.

I'd say bad luck:(

Comment by battierpeeler

just tried this with:

loot-filled pumpkin
small spice bag
bag of fishing treasures

all had the exact same thing they had in them after the tuesday restarts.

edit: i'm being voted down for actually providing useful info regarding the comment? oh well.. he said it worked one way so i tested it out. by testing it out, i figured out he was incorrect. feel free to try it out yourself. save any containers up until the tuesday restart and see that it doesn't work.

Comment by Baddalaur

I've been trying to get this mount Every Hallow's End since 2007 and I still have yet to get it I'm just hoping the Old God's see fit to grant me this mount before the Holiday ends

Comment by Goolatza

Ya I also tried this on 3 different toons today with the loot filled pumpkin all 3 had the exact same loot in it pre maintenance. Only thing I can think of is today wasn't a true restart or they fixed this. =(

Comment by mastertaima

I find everyone's luck is stupid. >( Because I've been trying since the first day, on FIVE 80's and I haven't gotten it on any. I hate that RNG. >:/

Comment by reapersheart

my husband and i have been in somewhat of a race to get the mount... and so far out of my 8 80s, i've gotten the mount on 5 of them, just in this years event, and 2 dropped in a row just today.

and its all from the "Loot-filled pumpkin" from doing the horseman daily.

Comment by Detscrotes

Thats what I am questioning too.. I tried it with the Loot-Filled Pumpkin and the Hyldnir Spoils bags and both had the exact same things inside of them.
I'm hoping that last night just wasn't the usual Tuesday night reset (I didn't see any of the usual notes posted about shutdowns when I logged in)

Comment by Kager

2 horseman reins in 2 days on my pally >:( wanted it on my priest or something instead.

Comment by steveo234

In game testing has shown several times that container items' contents are not fixed until they are opened and something is removed. Until then they just store a loot table lookup value - which is indeed fixed at creation - but if the loot table changes before you loot the container the old number will be used on the new table and you can get new loot.

Obvious case in point, when they added BC epic gems to the Brilliant Glass loot table, Glass that had been made before the patch was able to produce epic gems after the patch.
Source

1. Look in the bag (turn auto loot off)
2. If No Mount (or the item u want)
3. Don't Loot anything
4. Wait for server shutdown/restart
5. Go To 1

TL;DR - If your loot didn't change, did you take something out of the bag?

I plan on using this for the Cracked Egg , Cache of the Ley-Guardian and Hyldnir Spoils as well, also Landro's Gift Box when they fix it, a bug has made it so you cant loot it.

All your Mounts are belong to us.

Comment by Seprest

This was fixed two expansions ago, thanks for your input though.

Comment by trolldruidftw

what i dont get is y it allows lvl 20s to ride it when u have to be a 78 to get into the instance.

Comment by gs96

Okay I'm really hoping i get this mount on just one of my toons before hallows end ends, iv got 4 80's and so far haven't seen it on one of them.

Comment by Wh1spY

This does not work, seems like they hotfixed it this server restart!

Comment by xoftsree

fy fan vad du har tur inte en enda dropade för mej och det här är tedje året för mej

Comment by viega

So far I have managed to get the sword, helm, broom, and sinister calling on all of my 80s. I have yet to get a mount on any of them :(

Comment by Sogo

Used to be a 1% drop rate from the HH. Now is a 5% drop rate from pumpkin loot bag. So people will have 5 times more of this "Rare" mount. I'll never ride mine again that I got last year because its lost its rarity. =/

Comment by Wh1spY

Lol, I take my statement back, you can keep the lootbags and get diferent loot in it! I've kept two bags just to try this, at server restart (wednesday) I looked into the bag and nothing had changed. BUT now when I logged in I checked in my bags again, and the loot had changed, instead of:

Bag 1: Flying Broom (blue)
Bag 2: Mask

I got

Bag 1: Flying Broom (blue) and The horseman helmet
Bag 2: Flying broom (blue).

So well, I guess it still works! :D

Edit* BTW I also stored a cracked egg in my bank, but it didn't change, aint saying it aint working with those tho..

Comment by mimee21

would you like shut up? keep spreading it so they hotfix it... smart very smart... keep it quiet damn...

Comment by demonmana

exactly how long did you have to wait for the contents of your bag to change? i tried it myself and they dident.

Comment by Darleese

Guildie received the reins inside his treat bag yesterday.

Comment by Iphimedia

I'll put this up here to help out all you mount hopefuls.

There is a chance that the The Horseman's Reins will be inside your Treat Bag, so make sure you trick-or-treat often!

This has been confirmed in-game.

EDIT: Wowhead isn't always 100% up-to-date. Wowhead also still shows most of the PvP gear as having an old honor point value, totals have not been updated to new honor points. Don't downrate something if you can't prove it wrong. I'm 100% positive this is true, but for someone like me who keeps auto-loot on, it's not exactly easy to get a screenshot of the bag open with the reins in it.

Comment by Biggus1

The conversation is obviously photoshopped. Nice story, bro.

Comment by bennymoo17

6% armory drop i have done this every day x4 (52 times) and not seen this once. :(

Comment by Xorith

Got it after the first try =)

Comment by kiltonj

Sogo, you forget that you used to have 5 chances a day to get this. Now it is one chance a day. So you don't get 5 times more of a chance to get this.

Comment by Independence20

Got this my second day, and got yelled at by everyone when i linked this. <_<
Best Land/Air mount in my opinion.

Comment by Stiffen

You have a better chance of getting the mount using blizzard new bag method then the old way, the new way prevents filthy ninja's who already HAVE the mount from rolling on it again JUST to screw someone over....yes it happens, ive seen it!

Anyway i got the mount on my prot pally when it was level 78 (i powered leveled it from 71 to 78 so i could run the holiday), my VERY FIRST run my bag contained the weapon (which i used as a tanking wep for a while at 80), the pet and the mount. My gf was so bitter against me that night coz she lost the roll on the mount last year, and she didnt get it AT ALL this year! I didn't rub it in though coz i got it AGAIN on my pally sadly, and also got it on my shammy.

I wish there was a way to give away duplicate mounts to loved ones, ida given her a mount for sure!

Comment by Saethori

Since Cataclysm went live... or perhaps in 4.0.3a, I haven't been using this mount often... it has only been flying at +150% despite Artisan Flying.

Still runs at 100%, but only flies at 150%. And all my other flying mounts still fly at 280%.

...I am perplexed.

And, inexplicably, it went to normal 280% the following day. >_> So I guess it must be fixed now. Or something.

Comment by Suffocatio

omg i want this mount :O

Comment by voivod336

Sad part is it dropped for my druid THREE days in a row (not bragging). I can assure you I was more pissed off than you are, my hunter or pally could have used it QQ.

Something else I've noticed nobody has mentioned, and only noticed this a few days ago. Since its a land and flying mount you can mount underwater, land in water and not get dismounted. This allows you to more or less fly out of the water, druids at least have to switch forms, etc. VERY interesting feature if you ask me.

The only other mount i have that is a land/flying mount is a flying machine which dismounts in water. I did not realise it worked this way, has it always been so? I don't recall any other (permanent) land/air mounts.

*EDIT*

Apparently the X-53 Touring Rocket works this way as well.

Comment by eclipsemoon98

You should've seen the players in Goldshire during this event lasy year...it was hilarious seeing a ton of newbie alts and 80's running between two buildings but ironicly failing to save them...of course I was helping but Travel form can only go so fast to the Inn and back to a water bucket...once I get flight form this year shouldn't be a problem...(no it didnt take me over a year to get close to 60 I went to a new server...)

Comment by lehayes

The Horseman's Reins drop rate was increased to around 5% for the 1st half of the event (Hallow's End) from the loot filled pumpkin the last half however it was drastically decreased to around 0.1% to try and level out the mounts that had already dropped. Next Hallow's End event will be interesting to see if it goes back to a 1% drop more like when it dropped off the boss the year before. Judging from what Blizzard did this year going from very high to very low drop to try and even them out that would appear to be their intentions to be around 1% from now on.

Comment by behunter

now there are Invincible's Reins, Big Love Rocket, Celestial Steed, Reins of the Crimson Deathcharger, Reins of the Kor'kron Annihilator, and Riding Turtle in addition to this one.

Comment by mladen95

:D NICE

Comment by mladen95

NICE

Comment by mladen95

nice

Comment by Tusie

One of the best mounts to pair with a Warlock, aside from any of the Forsaken epic mounts.

Comment by bluewyvern

I think I will cry a little if I ever see someone with 60% mount speed riding Invincible or the Crimson Deathcharger.

Comment by Crazyrussian

Oh.. this is the mount that drops for my alts but not my main..

Comment by ReplicaOfKzD

so, people with 8 chars will do 8 scarlets a day for a boa mount? thanks/gl

Comment by andymitchelluk

Why not? Before the dungeon finder tool, you could farm it all day and night if you had a lot of friends as you had one shot per summon. It wasn't a stupidly low % drop from a bag originally! (That said, the % drop rate was even lower before as you could farm it).

The same applies to coren direbrew and even lord ahune for the pet/staff! I would love the event mounts/pets to be BoA. I've got the staff from ahune on my pally (!) and my alt rogue got HH reins last year. BoA would have solved that and it's not too much to ask considering you're not stealing loot from anyone. It's in YOUR personal goodie bag!

Comment by WoWman95

horseman's reigns and invincible, thats impossible... however ik someone on Illidan-US that has their lock as their main mount collector (lvl 22) with a warrior as his main (85 ofc). he sent the crimson deathcharger to his lock so he could bring it up (his lock engi/taylor for the 5 extra bop mounts). he rides around in style on his 60% crimson deathcharger as i type this :)

Comment by Lucid

A subtle perk to this mount is that it makes no noise while flying.

This happens to be ideal when I leave WoW on, in the background, to camp a rare spawn. It lets me keep the sound on for the audible alert from a mod, without having to hear wing flapping noise in the background.

Comment by Cyphonner

Its been over 4 years...

4 years and not a single mount, on any of my alts.

Sigh..

Comment by Dorllad

its a flying horse besides a vampiricorn thats on fire what else could you possibly want

Comment by Nitro360

Hope I have luck on getting this mount was unable to get it last year due to training :(

Comment by akujinn

sweetsydney @ aerie peak has crimson deathcharger.. level 20 twink.

Comment by Lamynx

If Brewfest is any indication, I hope we don't get one chance per day. This has too low a drop rate to be that limited.

Comment by Baalah

No one gives a *!@# akujinn this isn't even the correct comment section for that.

Comment by jethrosgirl

i think if they added an faster newer mount to this it would be alot better, i have this but maybe they should make it so more than a lvl 20 can get it

Comment by namegoeshere

Not only that, but if you get multiples of the same mount on one character, you can send them to the other characters that you have ran through every day with no luck.

My main has gotten a few Brewfest rams and it kills me that I haven't been able to send them to other toons that could use them (and were running Coren every day!)

Comment by legendpwns

yet again is ready to be looted in 2011! goodluck all :)

Comment by Alcest

I hope they upped the droprate of this one to 24% too :|

I don't mind the once a day thing, but when it's under 1% drop rate, it's very unlikely to get it in 2 weeks.

Comment by brclements87

http://tinypic.com/r/kdpsf8/7

may wanna look at that for first year.

Comment by poorangel

no longer drops from headless horseman... it has a rare chance to be in daily HH dungeon bag

Comment by PityTheLoveFool

Beautiful mount, glad to see Blizzard finally fixed the front-left hoof graphic glitch.

For those of you who didn't know, prior to this years events, the horseman's mount's front-left hoof was bent a bit. Super disturbing.

Comment by Chichiri

Well it's October 18th, it's grindin' time...

Comment by dwhittman

I found a great link for all this banter! http://www.wowhead.com/forums

Comment by Krestril

0.14% pop rate as of 19 Oct, wow.

Comment by Ares2112

looks like its a 0.14% drop rate...so youre going to need the luck of the titans for it this year.

Comment by Evilpancho

Sooo pissed, I've been trying for this sob for 3 years on my main, I just wanted to go run on my fresh 85 that took me 8 months to level from 80 to 85, not only did I get this mount but I got the squashling, and the hallowed helm. Now on top of the fact that the toon I want to have it doesn't have it, my alt shows me how much pure awesomeness it is and that I plan to $%^& bricks if I don't get it this year

Comment by bullshizzblizz12

yea iv been doing it for 3 years also no luck on my main yet my mage got 2 horseman mounts last year i wish blizz would at least make them boa seems like alot of ppl get them on alts blizzard always talks about customer satisfaction well making a mount like this so low of a drop in under 2 weeks to get it is kinda funny at least make it boa so the toon you want it on at least gets a better chance to get it my main got 0 brewfest mounts this year also again..........all my other 4 alts have at least one of them if not both gonna be kinda upset at blizz if my main dont at least get one holiday mount this year kinda a slap in the face for my alts to get mounts but not my main that has 146 mounts atm..........just my 2 cents pray for me lol

Comment by wedazer

just got it on my alt...sucks trying for 3 years on my main and never getting it.wish it was binding on acount

Comment by maryalice

Can someone confirm please - you can ONLY get this as a rare reward from the bag you get after completing.........the dungeon instance with the Headless Horsemen? And that instance is ONLY available to level 84-85 characters? Or, are ALL level players able to acquire this mount?

Comment by Dk2s3bigfail

Hey why do there stand the mount is for lvl 20 when ive fist can get in it lvl (80-85)?

Comment by Kosume

Unless I am much mistaken it is not possible to simply jump off of Krasus' Landing without flying. Though let a few things be noted. First, at the time of this post you could not fly within Dalaran, which is now possible. Second, as of 4.1 the mount setup change and this was no longer an issue. You were able to use this mount as a normal ground mount then run to Krasus' Land and fly. Also, if I recall correctly, you would have to land in Krasus' Landing to go from flying to ground without being dismounted.

Uhm.

1. At the time of that post, and I'm fairly certain during all of Wrath, flying in Krasus' Landing was possible, sorry bro.

2. So that means it was possible.

Edit: Lol, I got downrated for telling the truth. You've always been able to fly in Krasus' Landing, but would be dismounted upon flying into another part of Dalaran.

Comment by tuholainen

It only says it requires level 20 to use. You can train your first Riding skill at level 20, and The Horseman's Reins scale with the skill. But the Reins itself are unobtainable at that level, as it only drops from Loot-Filled Pumpkin which is the daily reward for killing the Headless Horseman by using the Dungeon Finder.

Correct information... MUST.... DOWNRATE..
But guess it's the way to go

Comment by Mikhail1

Anyone else thinks the drop rate has been nerfed badly this year? I got it 4 or 5 times on my druid last Hallow's End and on many other characters, no mounts so far this year.

Comment by Alfa

Yea, I got it last year on like the 2nd day. Nothing this year, even with another character.

Comment by nitrolite

The Mount

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0hhq0m_H_A

Comment by kadookni5530a

That mount is awesome with a level 85 undead warlock

Comment by DaggerspineRyuuj

Got this on my first run of the year. Same goes with the Swift Brewfest Ram. How lucky is that?

Comment by doctorgray

Even if this Mount isn't that rare anymore, it's still one of the best mounts in the game IMO. Not only is it ground/flying so you can use it anywhere (much more appealing than a running gryphon/hippogryph/etc) but the model is nice as well.

The one thing I wish we could get out of this holiday is for them to add another rare mount. It'd be the magic broom that drops currently/in the past, yet useable all year long.

Comment by Argussangra

It does figure, that I went to the Horseman out of boredom, and this mount dropped for me. If it seriously has a 0.4% drop rate, tables are going to get flipped.

Comment by Neutralis

I have yet to get this to drop for me. maybe it's just my bad luck with holiday things.

Comment by MiltiadesBooga

O horseman, you're a villain through and through
And a dreadful pyromaniac, of course
For all you've torched, the least that you could do
IS BE A SPORT AND DROP YOUR FREAKING HORSE

Comment by Jakeofb1adez44

Oh, well thats cool! I've got 13 squashlings from the candy buckets, the Reigns should drop tomorrow! xD

Comment by Tuuto

I've been on the grind for this mount for several years. By your comments, it sounds as though it may never happen. What a disappointment, it looks like such a nice mount.

Comment by Shadowkeeper3

Is the drop frequency even lower than Rivendare's mount?

Comment by Ares2112

as of current data yes it is. I got my death charger on my 13th run but no luck on the hhh this year so far.

downrated cuz you guys jelly or somethin?

Comment by WeWillPawnYa

This just happened to me and my emotions are mixed : my alt hunter is rly excited but my main warrior who happens to be a mount collector, wants to punch my hunter on the face ... raaaaaage :/

Comment by Metazare

I just recieved the mount from the Loot-Filled Pumpkin today on my hunter, i got a bit suprised. But i would like to get the mount on my main instead :P. Anyway, a really nice looking mount. :)

Comment by Rellie01

This is just a question - Has anyone gotten this year 2011? I have run daily on all 4 of my 85 level toons and not seen a single drop for anyone in any of the groups I was with. I'm just curious if it is still a possible drop.

Comment by RoshiArgentDawn

Is it just me, or is the droprate lower this year (2011) than last year?

I got this on 2 toons last year, and now with 3 days left of Hallows End. I havent got it on a single one yet. And im going with 5 characters this year.

I also saw this mount, like everywhere in Dalaran last year. But its rare to see this year. And if i see it, and inspect peoples achievements. I can see that they've got it last year.

Comment by Hwoarang97

I think the drop rate should be atleast 2-4% i mean come on. Two weeks each year you have a 0.4% drop chance each day. Although it could be higher

Comment by Lamynx

When will the stats update. It's been over a full week since the last update where we had 80 people get it.

Comment by Kalomoure

Just got it on my main. By far one of the coolest mounts ever!

No annoying wing-flap sounds either!

Comment by Whoisthiscook

My first Hallow's End ever and I got the mount!

/die happy now

Comment by Ares2112

kind of annoying how they nerfed the !@#$ out of the drop rate. Its not like its rare at all and they needed to keep it rare.

Comment by bullshizzblizz12

if .4% aint rare idk what is.... i havent got a brewfest mount or headless mount this year so yea............3 years for nothing prob wont even waste my time next year make these boa or i quit this game next year!

Comment by mijoruk

THIS MOUNT HATES ME. I really want it for ONE of my characters at least, but noooo, I'm just getting a lot of horrific helms and haunted swords. For the love of evil pumpkins, please let me have a mount this year!

Comment by busy

It is still dropping, i was in a group three days ago where someone got it and bragged, but I have been at this every day and nothing, My luck stinks apparently.

Comment by jdgks

I have gotten the head on two characters and the sword on three characters, but i never get that mount! Tried for so many years, and i have never even seen it drop (yes it used to drop of him).

Comment by g1real

It would be nice to have it be dropped instead of by random daily drop so dedicated people can farm it, just like 99% of the other content in the game.

Comment by arkensis

No longer relevant - this now drops solely from the once-a-day bags due to the ability to repeatedly kill the Headless Horseman with the use of the Dungeon Finder.

Comment by Viserate

It does seem to be just a bit out of whack that this mount's drop rate is abysmally low. You have 2 weeks and one chance a day to get this mount. I understand that it is a unique mount, but you only get 14 chances a year. The other unique mounts in the game you get multiple chances each and every day. Now I'm not saying that the drop should be a guarantee, but come on, I did not see it drop once this year for anyone in any group I was in nor for anyone in my guild or anyone they were grouped with either.
Having items drop multiple times, even though you can no longer use them is frustrating and those items you would like to drop do not appear to be part of the loot table. This could be fixed with either allowing multiple runs a day or make it boss loot that drops often.

Right now it only adds frustration to an annual event that is mostly fun and enjoyable.

Comment by Errlang2

I got the mount on the very last day Oct. 31st. It does indeed drop! (duh!)

Comment by bullshizzblizz12

omfg bull$%^& my mage just got one she already has one learned and one in her bags now i get another one to add to my bags yet my 5 other toons got squat fuk u blizzard!

Comment by Rexak

Tried each day since hallows end was released (played wow since day one) and havent got this on my main.

Will keep trying! Good luck and gz to those who got it this year.

Comment by Angrymartian

I picked up the reins on three toons out of five this event cycle, most recently on my mage this morning.
Certainly seems to be above the average?

Comment by Angrymartian

I picked up the reins on three toons out of five this event cycle - Jyru, Zygz and Smallblock @ Saurfang US Horde.
Certainly seems to be above the average?

ed: I agree with above posts that the reins should be account bound. One of the toons is a barely played alt :(

Comment by Angrymartian

Comment by Cemeteries

Hopefully you'll be in my possession next year!

Comment by Talorra

I only recently started playing WoW, and hit level 84 (to queue for the Horseman's dungeon) with four days left of the holiday. First pumpkin drop was a mask and candy. Second was the sabre.

Third was the reins!

And on the last day the helm dropped, so a pretty lucky holiday and a nice drops on my way to 85. Good luck to everyone next year, as it's definitely a cool mount.

Comment by Lolia

Facts about the mount as of Patch 4.3

- You do gain a 'Feat of Strength Achievement' from obtaining this mount.

- This mount scales to your current Riding skill, as do all mounts as of Cataclysm (Ground and Flying)

- Is only obtainable during the once a year world event Hallow's End - Hallow's End.

- Is only looted from Loot-Filled Pumpkin once a day through the Dungeon Finder tool.

- You have to be lvl 84 or Higher to queue for this event.

- It still has a RANDOM low drop rate of only 0.01% - 0.04% (Speculation from previous years has changed.)

I will update more as I know it.

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P.S

Please be careful when you loot the Pumpkin! I'm the type of person who tends to keep a lot of err... things in my bag and never seem to have enough bag slots free.

I had another disappointing day of not finding the mount via looting the pumpkin. I then decided to clear out my trash to a vendor so I can make room for it, for tomorrows attempt. As I was selling stuff, I came across the Headless Horseman's Reins, it had been sitting there quite happily all along. I was in shock and tried to find out how long it had been there! With no luck.

So, if you are a dummy like me, be sure to check and re-check your bags! And don't sell it by accident also! (They really should change the Icon to make it look more like a Horse, and not a Belt before you use it)

Good Luck for the years ahead <3

Comment by mek002

This mount is awesome ! I got it 10-21-10 and i remember going to SM and looted what ever didnt pay any attention and then opened the bag and it dropped lol .. currently am 87/100 mounts

Comment by Wescman

MoP is coming, and mounts are going Account Wide. I made a little list of mounts, so you can show off how epic you are, starting at levels as low as 20. This list is meant for mounts you can achieve in-game without buying them from the Blizzard Store, as all of those can be used at 20. I have not included the TCG mounts, as those don't really show, "Feats of Strength" either.

Obtaniable In-Game

Crimson Deathcharger
Headless Horseman's Mount
Big Love Rocket
Golden King (Alliance)
Kor'kran Annihalator (Horde)
Swift Springstrider
Swift Lovebird
Darkmoon Dancing Bear
Swift Forest Strider
Invincible

There are, of course, all of the capital city faction mounts as well.

Recruit a Friend, Scroll of Resurrection, and Big Blizzard Bear mounts are all usable at 20 as well.

Please comment mistakes or tell me if I missed anything. : )

Comment by ZiraScar98

Anyone else notice a change in the way it runs? The running animation makes it look like it's running faster. (it's not though)

Comment by Lauralana

The very first year this mount came out I saw it drop 3 times. All those 3 times I rolled second highest. My husband beat me on the last drop.... /sigh. They made it easy to get. Didn't get it still >.< someone then made fun of my husband last year for riding on such an easy to get now mount, that everyone had one (but me /sigh). So he linked his achievement that showed he got it the first year, guy apologized. Saying that because I don't care how easy it is to get now, if I get it I am going to use it over any other rare mount I may have. Make fun of me for using such a *common* mount, I don't care as long as I has it! T_T this year the event will be right after expansion (mop) just about... I hope I hit 90 before it comes.

Comment by Alechs777

I really fell in love with this (and few other ;3) mount. Why? I don't care about its speed, about the way to get it... It's just beautiful...for me ofc.
I had an idea for a new mount - some kind of a flying Felsteed xD Similiar to this one, but ... different :)

Comment by Ownedhs

MOre drop.. 0.5 is to low.. 5% would be fine!

Comment by clarkeyboy

Your body lies beaten, battered and broken. Let my reins be your own, fate has spoken!

Lies.

Comment by stormrage442

Might anyone know if you where to get this on lets say a horde character, if you alliance ones will have it too since the mount merge?

Comment by vaultdweller012

This mount was introduced in 2008. At that time, it was a drop, with a roll required. I ran it that year a lot, and while I surely cannot remember the number of times, I do remember only seeing the mount drop twice.
The first was won by a guild member who was with me, who it is important to note, quit WoW only a week or so later, never to return.
The second was won by a random mage, who then admitted to already having the mount, but rolled anyway.

That brings us to the next year, 2009, when the mount started being in the personal loot bag after the fight. I had 8 toons that qualified to run the event that year, and ran it daily with each one, every single day, and never got the mount. That math is easy: 8 toons x 14 days = 112 attempts with no mount.

The next year, 2010, I had gotten another account, and by the time Hallow's End came around, I had 11 toons qualified to run the event. I ran all 11 every day except for one that I can remember, due to being out of town.
11 toons x 13 days = 143 attempts with no mount drop.

By now, I was really pissed. I had done 255+ (I am guessing around 325 total) runs without the mount dropping.

Last year in 2011, I had 12 toons at lvl 85, and again ran every one through every day (at least, obviously I was doing extra runs for rings on each toon every year as well)
The mount never dropped for me last year either.
12 toons x 14 days = 168 attempts.

I am now up to 423+ attempts, remember I am not counting the first year, without the mount dropping. I quit playing shortly after Hallow's End last year, only to return for the expansion, and my last attempt at getting the mount.
Obviously I haven't 12+ toons to run with this year, there simply was not enough time between the launch and this years Hallow's End to level that many toons.
I will be trying with 5 level 90 toons this year. I am not a mount fiend, but I do want this one, and it has obviously become a personal GRUDGE against RNG.
If the mount does not drop for me again this time around, there will be NO attempts next year.

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UPDATE!
10/31/2012
Just finished up the last run of my toons today. I am sure I could have leveled more toons just to get more chances, but this thing is not gonna beat me that way, so I stuck with the 5 I had planned, every day, for the two weeks.
You guessed it, NO mount.
I was running a Warrior, Priest, Hunter, Shaman and Druid through every day. I managed to get all the toons rings, even those with dual specs, and also dropped a total of 9 epic's out of the bag. Unfortunately, out of the 2 helms and 7 swords, none of them were dropped on a toon that could use them, and were all vendored.

I am now up to 493 attempts at the bag, and an uncounted number of tries from the first year when it was a roll. I am guessing at an easy 600+ attempts total, as I do remember running it for hours on end that first year.

While I am sure there are others who have made as many or more attempts than I, this is just another example of RNG.

Comment by FrostandFyre

Deathchargers aren't fliers
But this mount's so hard to acquire
And - wait, the screen must be a liar,
I've got the horse with hooves of green fire!

Comment by darkflow

I got the Green Proto-Drake in the first egg, then i get the the Reins in my first horseman kill in MoP, the wow gods are with ME!

Comment by Dolthra

A .5% drop rate is slightly ridiculous this early in an expansion.

For a .5% drop chance, that means that you should see it, statistically, once every 200 runs or so. You get 14 chances per character for the event.

Most people are not going to have all 11 characters on a server up to 90, but since I am sure there are some people who do, I will just use that as the maximum. So, using 11 characters to accomplish all 14 runs per day, you get a total of 154 runs. You are short about 46 runs of statistically being able to get the mount. To be able to statistically "ensure" a mount drop, you would need a total of 15 characters running all 14 days (just think of those queue times).

Now, realistically, a player has one, two, maybe three characters at 90. Maybe some have another one or two at 89. So a much more realistic number would be five characters able to run, maximum. If all five get 14 runs, and the reins should only show up once per person, then a drop chance would be a 1.5% drop chance. To make it a rare mount, it could be a 1% drop chance, and that would be slightly more realistic without making me want to punt my computer in rage at this unsensibly low drop chance.

But obviously, Blizzard won't listen, and will keep it at .5% this year, and next year it will end up being ridiculously high, like 10%.

Comment by Vulthor

I farmed the Kara mount for months because I thought it was this mount :/

Comment by redx101

god damn it all 4th year trying for this still no luck >.> this is the way the horseman taunts me in my head... "Here i ride with my epic horse i shall not lie the 4th year you try but still shall you cry! ahahahahahahaha!"

Comment by clarkeyboy

Anyone else wish this was a Battle Pet? :D

Comment by Electrazim

"Try and fail, try and fail again! Thy whom tries least gets what he whom tries most desires."

God damn noobies and their nooby luck.

Comment by catadon22

This is by far my 2nd favorite mount :D
Invincible's Reins being #1 :)

Comment by fraxing

one thing, it keeps you come back every damn year ":)
but... we wanna have it , but the looks of it, are not that great.
just a *gimmy* thing, not to ride and show off.

Comment by col0r

I actually got this item today. First year im in this event and i got it in the loot filled bag with the horrific hood and a broom!
I think I was lucky? Pic: http://i.imgur.com/cWwF1.jpg
Allso got raven lord this week, MAX lucky :)

Comment by kushcologne

8 years and counting still, wish it was still a drop so i could spam run it all day this is HORRBLE only getting one bag per day with a chance seems very unfair i believe this should still be a drop for those who wish to run it day in- day out hoping for this beauty of years of waiting

Comment by Sammorz

3rd year now.. No luck so far and I severely doubt i'll have any within the last few days of it. /sigh..

I mean come on... really..

Comment by Opallace

another hallow's end come and gone with no horsemen's reins. i queued everyday, and didn't even see anyone in my group loot them either. disappointing that i can't add him to my mount collection. grats to everyone that was lucky enough to receive this rare beauty!

Comment by Eilum

I have looted around 10 helms and 10 sabers. Several brooms tons of masks and some treats just in this past halloween celebration, the helm and saber has the same drop rate as the horse reins. Last year I got several helms and Sabers as well. I've been doing this since 2010, I've known people who have been trying since 2008 and finally got it this year. They lowered the drop rate due to having account-wide mounts, but what's the point if you can't get it on any of your toons? I used 3 this year, if MoP hadn't have popped so soon I'd have had 7, it's one of my most wanted mounts and they made it much harder to get, yet I kept getting crap with the same drop rate that I don't need. Drop rate is a lie! Happy Halloween and good job to all you lucky players who finally got it this year! -.-

Comment by elionor

4 years and still no mount

Comment by Pops715

I just don't understand it. The drop rate for the Reins is SUPPOSED to be the same as for the Hood and Slicer and those drop all the time. But the Reins never drop. I did the Horseman dungeon every day and not one person got it in any of the groups.

It's been four years of trying for me and scores of other players; maybe they did away with it and just neglected to tell anyone.

Comment by Mondoblasto

Gorram it, Headless Horseman.

Gorram it.

Comment by catadon22

i honestly hope that this never makes it to the black market auction house. if all you have to do to get an amazing mount is obtain 10-20K gold, then mounts won't be special anymore. think about it this way: you have this mount. your friend comes over riding the exact same mount. you: "hey, you finally got the horseman's reins. i remember i had to farm it for years to get. i was so happy when i finally got it. how long did it take you to get?" your friend: "oh, i didn't have to farm it. i just used the Black Market Auction House to BUY it. no farming for me!" you:" -____-"
see?

Comment by dashfiss

I have a feeling that those who have this mount, use it. It's nice and neat, works everywhere mounts are allowed, and has sufficient show-off factor. Big mounts don't work for me, always too much flapping or wriggling or something.

Comment by Arganis

Something is currently wrong with this mount (on my blood elf with master riding anyways) that makes it feels as if it's going faster than other horses when it's on the ground (sound and animation are off). Usually I get this impression when a mount is smaller than it should be (ie riding while shrunk). Just compare it to other "horse" mounts and you'll see what I'm talking about.

It's pretty annoying imo and I wish they'd fix it.

Comment by Esploratore

I have a curiosity, feel free to downrate, but please answer first if you know anything: this mount is given to be owned by a lot of people, as in 32% of wow players has this mount, YET it has only a 0,5% drop rate and is only doable 15 times per year on every character.

I am not an old timer, started wow in end of wotlk and seriously playing in cataclysm, but did this mount have a higher drop rate before, which justifies the fact that so many people have it, or is there any reason why it's not as rare as the drop rate says it should?

And source here, search horseman's reins: http://www.guildox.com/go/g.aspx?a=30

Comment by SomeDruid

Some of you may hate me for this, but back when there wasn't account wide mounts I got this mount twice.......within an hour
(On my Lock and my Druid)

Comment by Untamable

If you look closely below the two back legs this horse has a va-gina. Unlike other mounts which simply don't have a pe-nis this one really has a va-gina.
Jokes aside, it's one of the coolest mounts in the game AND it drops off the coolest boss in the game.
AND it's a flying mount which can be mounted in non-fly areas, thus it is 100% useful everywhere.

Comment by Rocktars

I want this more then ANYTHING!

Comment by FlameraChratz

I gonna farm this....... FOR SURE!

Comment by jeeyeop

Best of luck to everyone farming this God-forsaken mount. I used to queue everyday back when it was a relatively common drop, no luck. Now I get to do it again at a .5% chance per toon -.- I pray they bump up the drop to like 3-5%

Comment by booner

If you do this on one toon everyday for the whole event, your dropchange will be 7%. Considering you have alts, you can get it up to 14%, 21%, 28% etc. But that being said, its RNG after all :) Good luck people!

Comment by Withers

Dear headless man,
in hell you dine.
Your dungeon ran,
a thousand times.
What should be mine,
for your crimes,
your reigns I'll take
...please? for pity's sake?

Comment by missamanda28

I just got this on this year's first kill/try!
All I need now is the Love Rocket. :)

Good luck to everyone farming!

Comment by WyzrdX

Been 8 years in the making. 8 toons per day times 14 days times 7 years = 784 times I have killed the Horseman (approx).

Today on the Fourth toon of the first day of the eighth year, I finally got him.

Now what will I do.

Good Luck to those of you still hunting.

Comment by Teizpii

Just complaining if it brings any luck, so many years...

Comment by noobz2lose

I feel so bad for my dad... He's been trying to get this mount every day of hallows end since the beginning of Burning Crusade. He has played it on all 10 players (11 now that monks exist) and has never gotten it. His nephew and my little brother both got this mount at the same time in WotLK. Now, they always mock him by mounting on it every year through hallows end. I hope my dad gets this mount, to end his suffering. He one quit WoW for the whole year until hallows end came around again, just to try and get the mount, and he quit again after not getting it again.

Please, Blizzard, end my fathers suffering... Give him this mount. He has been trying so hard. And to have his son and nephew both mock him again for not getting this mount? They are the ultimate trolls with those horses... please, let my dad get this mount this year.

Comment by skelos20

in one day i got helm next sword then third day mount

Comment by Deactivated1664

Him and Midnight are hiding in a hotel room somewhere with Elvis.

Comment by Barisutas

Lol first try and i got mount :)

Comment by blacklisted

At this point, I would trade my Amani War Bear, Ashes of Alar, Azure Drake, Blue Drake, Blue Proto-Drake, Crimson Deathcharger, Drake of the North Wind, Fiery Warhorse, Great Brewfest Kodo, Onyxian Drake, Raven Lord, Rivendare's Deathcharger, Sea Turtle, Swift Brewfest Ram, Swift White Hawkstrider, White Polar Bear, and Winterspring Frostsaber for this mount and farm them all again.

Well, probably not the Fiery Warhorse. It stands to show just how bad I want this mount though. lol.

Hopefully lady luck is on my side this year. Good luck to everyone else farming this year.

Comment by Pops715

After years of wasted effort and much contemplation, I've resigned myself to the fact that I will never get this mount. Somewhere at Blizzard, there's a little programming troll who is wringing his hands and grinning, all the while letting forth with a cackling laugh of satisfaction, because he is happy with himself and the way he is making so many people suffer endless hours of disappointment. Well, enough is enough; it's things like this that make some people want to just quit playing altogether.

(Bleep) the Headless Horseman AND the horse he rode in on!

Comment by jeeyeop

Last night I dreamt I did this boss on my druid, and when I got the pumpkin bag, it had 3 epics :O but they were all swords... then I woke up upset, then got more upset because I got upset about loot in a computer game...

Comment by Canbal

Just got mine today, took 5 years of 5+ toons / year, good luck to all those still hunting down this one :)

Comment by SackoFrito

I've been trying for 5 years, still have not even seen it drop! One day....one day.

Comment by Deathslicer

Got it fifth try. :3

Comment by Skwis

Been trying this for three years now (since I started playing). Dropped this morning. I was so surprised I just stared at it for about 30secs...
So, previous years ran it with 1 toon, this year had 5 90's to run it with. More toons equal more chances.
Good Luck to all farmers out there!
You also get the feat of strength for this The Horseman's Reins, thanks to guntitan for mentioning this.
As a side note, this mount also looks really good on a shadow priest, as the flames show up a tiny bit while running through the air.

Comment by guntitan

No one mentioned the Feat of Strength from getting this mount? The Horseman's Reins

Comment by elbrando91

63 kills so far this year and no mount :/

Comment by sopor30

Am I evil and heartless if I mount up on this mount every time at the first of an HH run? :-)
This mount truly is as rare as they say. I got it five or six years ago, and haven't seen it drop since for me or numerous friends. We've had a few hundred runs over the years between all of us and our alts, but I'm the only one to have gotten it once.
Keep trying and good luck!

Comment by Nexsa

This is for motivation:

I have 12 toons this year to run it on, and I just got it at 96 attempts it dropped.

Odd way of it dropping. I was sitting here and I was just thinking while killing the HH, "It will never drop, why bother clicking this pumpkin once it drops into my bags."

The next thing I know, I open the bag and see purple. I first thought it was another helm or sword, since I have had 8 helms and 4 swords drop within 95 attempts, but this time it was the reins!

So happy! I've been farming this mount since back when it was added and you were in trade LFM and using your daily to summon him.

Good luck to all you mount lovers and farmers.

Comment by Girby2K13

I finally just got this on my Priest. After getting just troll masks, I saw the next page arrow. My heart froze. Guys my luck is always poor on this game, trust me your time will come.

Comment by Esploratore

Feel free to downrate if you don't like people getting the mount, but just going to say it was NOT easy.

2.011: I only had 1 char, my main, warrior, 15 runs, nothing.
2.012: I had 5 chars eligible to run it, my dk was still at 85 for special reasons for a few days, so ALMOST 75 runs, nothing.
2.013: I had 30 chars eligible to run it, of which 26 were dks, 2 hours and 30 each day to do all my runs, after 12 days, at the 6th run of the day it dropped, as in 336 runs done this year.

The runs will be a bit less considering last year I had levelled dk slightly later, but pretty much, 426 runs!

At this point there was an 88,17% chance that the mount would've dropped at least once, to make it simple take 25 people, 22 of them will have got it by now, 3 unlucky ones not yet (with this amount of runs).

Here it is, was tanking as frost on this dk I got it on http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2839/tjbg.jpg .

Comment by lizzoi

Been doing this since 2007 and still no mount - this year 2013 have been running 8 characters through every day... last year ran 6 characters through ever day. Sigh. BLIZZ give me the mount!

Comment by agentcoco

gods of rng heed my call!

other people help me get their attention by doing the same!

Comment by Pops715

Well, my reverse psychology apparently worked. (Either that or it was me closing my eyes, putting my hands together and saying, "Please, please, PLEASE let me get the mount in this pumpkin" right before I clicked to open it.)

I figured if I griped enough about NOT getting the mount, I'd get it. And, after trying every day of every Hallow's End since it was made available, I finally did get it. So glad the hunt is over; I feel like an enormous weight has been lifted off of me.

For those still trying to get the mount, keep in mind that even though it's Oct. 31st and Halloween is tonight, Hallow's End doesn't end until NOON Pacific time November 1st. So you can still do one last run on each toon. I know most of you already knew that but there may be a few who didn't.

Good luck to all!

Comment by Hashiclif

And what do we say to the horseman's reins?
NOT TODAY

Comment by Redemntion

So I've gotten the helm and the blade 5 times across 7 different toons this year and not once have I seen the reins. That extra 1% on the drop rate is OP.

Comment by Sinsster

Another year down, and still no mount. I would love to do my runs tomorrow, but I have to work, so today is the last day for me. It's been 4 years and no mount!

Comment by Deathcrawler

111 tries this year and nothing :'(

Comment by Alvita

NEW OFFICIAL OWNER OF THIS MOUNT!

Comment by Pops715

For those of you who haven't gotten the mount yet and who haven't noticed, Hallow's End doesn't officially end until NOON Pacific time! That means you can do one more run on each toon today, November 1st!

Comment by MBowman

Another year where in your pride
You tried to stop the Horseman's ride
Harken, cur, and know you fear
The blade of justice shall always be near
Hallow's End has come and gone
And so I leave you with the dawn
But know you all, I shall return
And I shall make you villains burn
Cry for mercy, strive in vain,
What you seek, you cannot attain
And when I return, you'll know of course
I'LL NEVER DROP MY BELOVED HORSE!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Comment by Ardensolis

I had 165 tries this year, 11 max level characters, I did each one every day for the 15 days. This is my 5th year trying for the mount.

And I still didn't get it. :(

Comment by Syferr

195 Attempt's this year on 13 toons, no mount. Got about 25 of those stupid swords and that helm a heap of times. They should make something that drops from these bosses that are BoA and once you have collected them over a couple of years you can buy the mount with the items that drop.

Same goes for that love rocket .... might lvl some more alts so i can kill that thing a couple of hundred times for a .00000000001% chance to get that mount.

Comment by afarina1

Tried to get the mount this year. Logged in everyday and killed him on my two 90's every single day......No drop....My buddy killed him once and got it....!

Comment by theonan140209

Creepy,Gorgeous and Hallowed!

Comment by CrinklyPringle

Technically, this is rarer than the Fiery Warhorse's Reins from Karazhan.

Through some simple maths (and some research), the Horseman's reins have a 0.5% drop chance. Combine that with the 15 days of the festival (assuming you try the dungeon every day on one character) and that's a total of 7.5% drop chance each year.

Now for the Fiery Warhorse, Wowhead sports a 0.25% drop chance, meaning that if you were to try Karazhan every week for a year on one character (52*0.25) = 13% for a whole year.

Congratulations to anyone that has got this, you have got "The rarest dungeon mount."

Comment by DarlingDoolittle

Over the past few years, I did approx. 367 runs with no drop. How unlucky.
My brother received the mount on his first try. (He plays one character, I play another.)

When battle.net decided to make mounts account wide, THAT was when I finally got mine.(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##hatman555##DELIM##

Comment by Andersism

You have a better chance that a life drops from the pumpkin.. O.o

Comment by Mithraldull

This beautifully cursed sorrel hangs in total silence when it flies.

Comment by Czsixteen

This is honestly a .5%? For real? I got this 3 times during one go in a year. I always thought Big Love Rocket was the only truly rare event mount.

Comment by Rhazz

As I feel for myself, I also feel for my fellow WoW-heads. I have 16 LvL 90s which are active currently, and for the past 4+ yrs I have been trying to get it with ALL of them everyday, every week that the event is running...and still have yet to obtain also. Keep up the faith, it will drop.

Comment by umizoomi

I just got this mount after my 3rd run on a alt :D Not sure if incredibly lucky or if the drop change has been increased. Been farming it for years too.

Comment by Nathiest

Finally obtain this mount.

Comment by captbananas

I seriously have tried to get this mount EVERY year, on multiple characters, and my very first run this season it finally drops.

WOW!

Comment by Almeryst

Finally!

Tried everyday last year with my one 90 toon, This year I have 3 of them, and on my second toon on the first day the reigns dropped for me :D

I am over the moon and this will be my standard mount now. Just need to grind for the new pets.

Good luck to all those still farming this mount.

Comment by Fetkosh

I think everyone is goning to get him this year... I got mine on 1st day 3rd alt run aswell

Comment by Xrikzi

I've been trying to get this mount for 4 years... the last two on 10 level 85's, and now 13 level 90s. I run it every day on every toon, and still it has not dropped for me. At .5%... I'm not very good at math, but I'm thinking I should have gotten it by now. :(

Comment by Rosalela

I've been farming for this since 2.4.3 (2008). I stopped keeping track of kills and thought I may never see this mount.

Today, I finally obtaind the reins on my alt resto shaman.

It's quite a load off the shoulders and feels amazing when you finally see the The Horseman's Reins in your inventory.

Even more so when The Horseman's Reins pops up and notifies your guild and all those around you.

Keep trying, and I wish you all the best of luck! <3

Comment by OakSnicks

I've only ever killed the horseman three times, ever. This year was my first year capped on hallows end. Because even though I joined during cata, I was never capped because I got sick of each class very quickly. (now capped on a ret pali)

On my second run, on the second day, this mount dropped, I wasn't even hoping for it, I actually wanted the hood more!

Good luck to everyone who actually wants this mount! You will eventually be rewarded for all the times it hasn't dropped! So yeah, just thought I'd share my experience.

Still hoping for the hood this year!

Seeya~

Comment by Frostbound

Year #6...Still no mount.
Hope is low.

Comment by FlyingToaster

On Hallow's eve, the Horseman comes
Riding his horse, while spouting poems
With a grin on his face, and buckets of fire
You kill him once, you kill him twice
Crappy masks, nothing else
Here we go, let's roll the dice
Oh, what's that? You rolled a nine?
Well sorry, but the reins are mine!
You try your luck day and night
With your face as pale as granite
And when the end of times is near
You shall say goodbye, Halloween!
And you shall never, ever see
Or even hear of the reins again.

"Ah-hahahahahahahahaaaa!"

Comment by Matchitisiu

It is truly an unfair world we live in. I know the chance of the mount dropping is absurdly low. Why Blizz do you send so many home empty handed every year. While having the sick sense of humor to have now given me the mount 3 times... Yes, Seriously..

I'm not writing this to gloat, just the opposite. Hell I'd give it away for free if I could. Blizz should make the mount BOE, imho.

All I was after was the Horseman's Horrific Helm..

BLIZZ, MAKE THIS MOUNT BOE!

Comment by Drusin

Got this a little while ago, when I opened the pumpkin I saw the icon and thought to myself "I get all the epic items except the mount and now I have this belt to vendor too" then I read the name :D I still get the urge to get on and run the dungeon since I've been doing it 15 times a day and only did it 4 times today. Anyone else have farmer ptsd?

Comment by Andersism

Horseman, we've settled the score,
You fell from your horse to the floor,
Now, your horse I'll ride,
SIT ON YOUR FAT ASS AND CRY

AH-HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA...

Comment by Andersism

It's not epic because you finally get it - it's epic because you DIDN'T get it after all those kills.

Comment by ealdrich

Seems it's dropping a lot more this year. A couple of my friends and myself that have been pursuing this for years got it to drop this year.

So there is hope.

Comment by Daiyanissa

Finally had this drop for my mage after 3 long years. Dropped 06:30 am on Turalyun EU. Had waited an hour for dungeon to pop, due to more bugs affecting the holiday instance queue.

Comment by cepartek0

893 attempts since it was added, and I complain one time about how I won't get it this year in guild. Next attempt, I get it. 894th time was the lucky one I guess. That means at 1/894, it's approx a 0.11% for me.

Lesson here? Complain in your guild chat once in a while! (unless you do it all the time, then stfu)

Comment by ultimateman55

Hard to believe, and will undoubtedly be downrated...but I ran this on my warrior (2nd toon of the day) and got the mount. After a short celebration, I logged onto my wife's account and ran it on her shaman (2nd toon of the day on her account) and got the mount. I took screenshots of both and so I checked the times. Turns out I looted them 24 minutes apart. Needless to say we're both pretty happy. 50% drop rate on the mount for us today...

I've been playing wow since a few months after launch and this year is the first that I've run the horseman on multiple max-level toons. Three times per day on my account and three times a day on my wife's account and we both lucked out.

Judging by some of the comments posted here, it seems we were very lucky indeed.

Comment by Chasedon

I just brought mine back from the dead!

My original death knight had this mount back in Lich King before he was deleted right when Cataclysm started because my brothers and I shared an account back then and he wanted a DK on our server. This was before account wide pets & mounts so I thought that it was lost forever. But then I log on and check the un-delete character icon out of curiosity and find my DK and this mount waiting to be restored!

Comment by scrypto

after years of trying w multiple toons every day of events I finally got him and as someone said firstly I thought "well some epix belt" then I read reins WOW!

my tip (even its prob RNG): I ve better luck with fresh toons than with stable alts n main, so for this I have leveled some new ones before brewfest (and got the kodo on one new alt) and now again, being 89 I tried it for the first time, next day I dinged 90 and tried it again n got the mount, just sharing my xp.
Now iam gonna bak to farm rivendare reins (2k+ and still nothing, kara mount and blue proto. These are cursed for me even fresh toons :D )
GL to all non-greedy n wishing players trying to get theirs mounts

Comment by akrilic

If you have 11 characters that do this everyday of hallow's end, you will have a 56% chance to get the mount.

Comment by craigculwell

Dear Sir or Madam:

How do I get Headless Horseman Reins for all characters? I won Headless Horseman reins, but it says your class cant have it. I don't think its fair at all. :(

Thanks,

Craig Culwell

Comment by tabitreader

I've seen 3 people get the Horsemen's Reins this season, they MUST have changed the drop rate with the Epic loot pumpkin, so good luck to you out there, I am one of the 3 that got the Reins and the Feat of Strength after 6 years, since 2008, trying to get the mount. Good luck to you all.

PS - in previous years after asking other party members, querying if they have even SEEN the Reins drop, they always said NO, year after year.

Comment by Omega90210

Just got mine today just like most, took me 4 years of trying. Keep trying guys eventually it will happen. Not sure what alot of people are saying either, about it not dropping? I saw someone loot it not 10 minutes before me, so it drops. Good Luck!

Comment by rowaasr13

As I casually switched characters while killing Horseman today I thought it would be fun to comment to my wife who plays too and was watching from sofa: "Hey, the horse..." as I opened the loot window and finish with "...didn't drop again". She chuckled.

On very next try on next character a few minutes latter I had to say "Hey, the horse... did drop now".

Comment by Dharmon

Just dropped today for me, after something like 40 kills across three toons. I'm not usually lucky so I'm really happy now - steed mounts are my favourite, and this one looks really great :)

Comment by Infernofreak6

I won this mount on my 7th and final run of the day. I want to wish everyone else good luck!

Comment by Lanzer

On each Halloween, you try your luck,
In the Dungeon Finder, you'll get stuck.
You storm in here, your weapons drawn,
Don't you know I'm so forlorn?
But so are you, you know, of course,
Because I'll never relinquish my fabled Horse...

Comment by LanceIcestrong

You ever notice how there is always some jerk who will ride the Headless Horseman's mount up to the pumpkin to try to start the event every time? Just rubbin it in...

Comment by rossitini

After getting Fiery horse and Barons charger a few weeks ago I thought my luck was up....

It was...

I have been farming this guy for nearly 8 years and this year doing it everyday on a total of 12 toons!

Log on for 5 mins to pass some time and do event and BAM I see those beautiful words in sparkly purple

For all those who have lost hope of getting this I would say stay at the grind and don't lose faith

Good luck

Comment by Sinsster

This year is almost done and the mount has yet to drop. It's been 5 years now, and I was sure that I would get it this year. Running 12 toons and still no mount!

Comment by Rhinomcd

I farmed this across 12 toons every day for a total of 180 attempts.
I did not get the mount.

Here's what I got Instead:

However,three of my friends got this mount within their first few tries. Best of luck to all farming this... hopefully you're not as unlucky with the RNG gods as I am in future years.

Comment by zilkhaw

Run with 9 toons this year, still no luck. Damn RNG, hate you!

Comment by nononsense

Unfortunately, another year passes without the mount. Just finished my last attempt this year and also my 327th loot filled pumpkin without the mount.
The positive side of this is that I won't have to run this instance on 13 toons a day until next year. Spending an hour or two a day for 15 days on 13 characters all focused on obtaining the same loot item can become quite monotonous.
Congrats to all those who looted the mount! And, for everyone else, there is always next year.

Comment by malrats

168 runs this year (missed a day due to maintenance, or else it would have been 180) and no drop. I didn't even get rings or weapons on all of my characters!

/sigh

Comment by AncientAlan

It was the final day and I was pretty much resigned to another effort in futility. Blizzard would once again have the last laugh. As the countdown neared, I responded to yet another que call and proceeded to bring down that damnable headless horseman for the 190th time. Upon exiting -exactly 2 hours before the event was scheduled to end- I hit "B" and moved my cursor over the Loot-Filled Pumpkin. I clicked on the thing, prepared for what had become an all too common moment of disappointment. As I gazed at the items in the bag I quickly picked up on the purple description. Of course I had already looted several of the helms and swords so it was a matter of determining which it was. But wait, the icon looked different, more like a ring. And then I read the description, quickly grabbed my readers to make sure I was actually seeing what I was seeing as the reality of the moment began to settle in. As the loot made it's way into my bag, I read the description a few more times before I right-clicked on it. Mount and corresponding achievement safely secured, I took a deep breath as I was still in a bit of shock over the whole thing. It has been a little over 6 1/2 hours since I looted that last Loot-Filled Pumpkin and, while I am elated to finally have this special mount, what I am most thankful for is the fact that I will never have to set foot in that holiday instance again - EVER!

Comment by snarf2

Six long years of trying and got it at 8:00 this morning. Awesome mount !

Comment by IndieMarkus

I remember back in the day when I saw this thing pop up, I thought "Wow, another useless pet" not knowing that I just won the roll for one of the rarest mounts ever^^

Comment by Ozzayel

If I don't get this mount this year I'm gonna go crazy.
Busting my ass to get my last 2 chars to 100 so I can run this stupid event with 11 chars for the first time.

I've done it every hallows end for the last 5 or so years with a few chars, and last year i think with 7-8.
This HAS to be my year... please gods of RNG show me mercy :(

**UPDATE**
So finally on the Saturday morning on my 2nd to last character it dropped.
I'm very happy and to everyone else just keep trying...............

Comment by jrnewhouse

So, I hurriedly leveled my paladin to 100 in the last two days so I would have seven max level toons to take a shot at the Horseman's Reins each day during Hallow's End. I started playing WoW during Cata, so this is my fifth year trying for the elusive mount. I decided to queue my Warrior first, since he is the first toon I ever made when I started to play. Lo and behold, I opened the Loot-Filled Pumpkin, and there it was! After five years, I get the mount on the first run of the first day of the event! Unbelievable! Good luck to all still trying :^)

Comment by chris5462

Im sorry.
http://imgur.com/97X6lGx

Comment by Argus00

Yay I won the internet! Well, partially anyway.
October 18, 2015, and it finally dropped after 7 yrs, on my 10th attempt.
Don't despair people, hang in there!

PS - now only if Invincibru would stop being so darn Invisibru, so I can win the other part of the internet...

Comment by Naresa

Woop this year was my year :) http://i.imgur.com/P0LrXxu.jpg

Comment by Peredhil

Last year-70 kills= 0 mounts.No worries.This year,I acted like a chinese gold farmer.Leveled enough alts for 19 kills/day(tried 20,but didn't have the time or energy and my last paladin remained in the frozen Icecrown...).So,I braced myself for an event with 285 attempts,most likely in vain.....
Some RNG god decided I was worthy,and the mount dropped in day 1 ,12th kill.Very grateful,considering the time saved.Also,now i have enough alts(most of them will never see the legendary ring,for example,though) for a half decent big elusive rocket farm in february 2016.
Good luck to everyone still farming.Eventually will drop.

Comment by manymifi

I saw that there was a new choice in the dungeon queuer, i came here, looked at comments about that some of you have tried for several years to aqquire this mount & i thought to myself:

"It could be fun to get it, on the very first try knowing how much struggle people have been through"

And then i got it, i now feel very guilty, you guys should've gotten it q.q

Don't hate me.

Picture below:
https://gyazo.com/2fd872129f7dbbe7a0997cdfd29eac51

I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK!

Comment by Graknak

Don't get your hopes up if you want to keep your sanity, just do the dailies and ignore the mount. Pretend it doesn't exist because when taking probability into the equation you'll see that it takes about 1375 kills for a 99.99% probability of getting the mount to drop. With 11 max level characters and 14 chances per character per year at worst you'll see it drop in your 9th year of Hallow's End almost guaranteed. You'll already hit 99.0% probability at kill 925 which, with the same setup as above, would be at the end of your 6th year or the beginning of your 7th year. And of course with all rng, it can drop anywhere from the first kill ever to still no mount after a million kills, however both those extremes are very rare.

Comment by Gormadok

4Th day of farming with my 100s - no success :D

Comment by Forges

After farming for many years, it's dropped twice for me this year. I got incredibly lucky this year or they have increased the drop rate.

Comment by draznor

I've been farming this since it existed, has it dropped? No...am I cursed yes it seems lol

Comment by Nanutza

Just got the mount today, after too many years ....
6 characters every day payed off in the end.
Wanted to say that in the bag I got the magic broom, the reins and the horrific hood also. quite a big bag... :)
Good luck to all farming .

Comment by 0Aloreth

I pity you fools
who run for my mount;
the least you can do is
weep and pout!

Comment by ziggyglok

'Tis that time of year again,
when Hallow's End comes round.
My farm for the steed continues,
to my keyboard I will be bound.
With it's glowing green eyes and hooves of flame,
it simply makes any other mount seem quite lame.
To the dungeon I return,
not a day have I missed.
But if that horse doesn't drop this time,
I will be really pissed!

Comment by NODIE

It dropped after four years :)

Comment by Soakeyy

Just got this after about ~10 total kills on it, been incredibly lucky with holiday mount drops this year. Good luck to all of yall still farming!

Comment by pepeu

This is one of of these events that I simply hate. I am an altoholic and "must" do it on all characters. 13 level 100s and it's just never dropping. It's simply not fun when drop chances are ridiculously low. Year after year after year of mind numbing farming. Zzz... *cries in my sleep* :O/

Comment by thezaizai

I think its a big slap in the face to get the PLATE helm and the SWORD in one loot on my PRIEST. </3 It's been SIX years. Just give me.

Comment by Slacktivist

Just got mine today. At least a week of farming this mount in the daily dungeon group on 8 different toons. It does drop people, don't give up :D

Comment by Fabianku

First year of playing wow seriously and today i did my first try on the headless horseman........ Mount dropped ^^ i am a lucky bastard ._.

Comment by ajones0516

After 6 years, I finally got the mount. Don't give up guys!

Comment by blacklisted

Been after this mount since 2008. Ran the event every day it was available every year on every applicable toon I had. At least four of the past years, I was doing it on 11 toons a year. I only had 7 100's this year to grind. FINALLY my perseverance paid off today on my 4th of 7 attempts for the day.

Keep at it, everyone. I know exactly what it's like to be after this and never see it drop every damn year. A huge weight seems to have finally lifted from my shoulders. It's frustrating, but remember, without disappointment, you can't appreciate victory. Just never give up and eventually it will drop.

I wish the best of luck to everyone still farming.

Comment by DRPiazza

I am 105% convinced 1 in 5 or 10 accounts literally have a 'DND' flag for certain holliday event mount drops, and boss mount drops. Seriously a giant digital DO NOT DROP flag just licked and slapped on to the face of some peoples account, including mine...

Sorry, ./nerdrageover...

Comment by SackoFrito

8 effing years! I came to check to make sure that I wasn't forgetting to do something that would increase my chances, but nope. Its just got a horrible drop rate. I will say that despite seeing it all over my server, its nice to see that only 37% of players have it, and I'm sure it is actually lower than that with people that have obtained it, but no longer play the game.

It's just so frustrating!

Comment by ninjalink99

i find it funny on how i managed to obtain this on Halloween of all days... not complaining. and for those who don't have it i recommend getting the warforged nightmare because it is a good alternative in my opinion, but it does cost real money. so there's that. HAVE A HAPPY HALLOWEEN!

Comment by leowow

Another year without dropping this mount.

Comment by Disobliged

Been trying since '08. This was the first year where I kept count of my attempts.
After 108 attempts (this year, after leveling 5 extra alts) here's what I obtained instead...
28 Magic Brooms
452 Candies
7 Swords
9 Helms
X Masks
3 Sinister Squashlings
11 Pumpkin Helms
~Looks like Blizzard will at least have me around this time next year ^^;

Comment by vsolfronk

Finally got mine this year on the last day!

Comment by Deathomega

8 years and counting....no mount for me

Comment by Mevel

First year I tried for this mount. Got it after 35 attempts on 8 alts.

Comment by Esploratore

I don't really understand: this mount as you can agree, is 0,5% drop rate and only doable 15 days a year per char.

So I don't get how, as you can see on the right of this page this can have been... Attained by 39% of profiles.

You can also look on guildox: http://guildox.com/popular/mounts

On this website you can see the most popular mounts, and headless horseman has a 51% popularity, top 71 mount, as in there's mounts like onyxia which are more accessible which have only a 17% popularity.

Anyone has any insight on why this mount is so common between wow players, yet it has so low drop rate and accessibility?

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The Horseman's Reins

Item Level 20
Binds when picked up
Mount (Account-wide)

Use: Teaches you how to summon this mount. This mount changes depending on your Riding skill and location.
Requires Level 20
Requires Apprentice Riding

"Be it into the flood, or into the fire, this one will go where you require."
Drop: Loot-Filled Pumpkin
Holiday: Hallow's End

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