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Comment by frostbreeze

So typical that again JC gets currancy like this. was hoping there wouldnt be this time around but no. most proffs you can get everything in a few days but JC again need to farm dailies for months.

Comment by Gant

You get the quests after you hit 475 Jewelcrafting. :)

(for example Brilliant Carnelian, Solid Zephyrite or Smooth Alicite.)

+If this helped you.

Comment by Dragonsomething

Illustrious Jewelcrafter's Token's are received as a reward from the Jewelcrafting dailies at each of the factions capital cities. For the Alliance you talk to Isabel Jones Located in Stormwind and for Horde it's Marith Lazuria located in Orgrimmar. As Gant stated above, you are not eligible for the dalies until you reach 475 in Jewelcrafting.

Happy Hunting

Edit: OK... My fat fingers dont always do what I want them to, I fixed it... :) Good one Rin

Comment by dragonknight2300

It IS also one of the two professions that produces something, that everyone will always need, and the only profession that everyone will need a lot of. So it does seem just a little bit fair, that we can't just spam all the designs at once as the money making machine JC is.

There is some truth to this but there is also something else to consider, its also a profession where only the newest and best stuff is always wanted, all the old gems are just vendor value. Further once everyone figures out whats stats are best to get only a handfull of the cuts will even be used and there will be alot of competition for selling those. For example i used to offer free cuts for anyone for any cut they wanted, i kept a sock of tokens so i could purchase whatever pattern they wanted, i did this for almost a full year, these were also the only paterns i ever purchased. By the end of lich king I had purchased less that 25% of the potential gem cuts. even now with the new gems and inflated prices there are some cuts where even perfect versions sell for less than mat cost (especially green ones). This varies per server ofcourse but will likely follow the same patern on most. And because these are the ones everyone wants the gems associated with them will be sold less often and thus be more expensive, further eating into profit if you dont collect your own mats, and since there is no consistant way of getting a particular gem its dificult to do this, I always seemed to be out of dark jades in lich king for example, not cause i made alot of them but because i never seemed to get them from my prospecting.

Which is not to say that JC isnt a profitable profession and worthwhile, but ultimatly it is one of the most random professions and can backfire on you big time. Just look at the fire prism, requires 3 of every gem and you have no idea if the output will be worth it. I remember so many icy prism uses that left me with nothing but a rare green and blue gem which wasnt even worth AHing. Or prospecting 4 stacks of saronite and still not getting that dark jade i needed for my daily. So in conclusion the frustration I feel from this style of token usage is that you combine a slow rate of learning paterns with an inconsistent method of obtaining gems and it just feels clunky. You may know you want to sell that red +40 agil gem so you buy the patern, but good luck obtaining them on your own. and i do mean luck.

Comment by JPHasson

I see that there are five quests that can be completed for the tokens. So is there five dailies that can be done a day or is there maybe three dailies with the five random quests?

Comment by Xanntis

I see that there are five quests that can be completed for the tokens. So is there five dailies that can be done a day or is there maybe three dailies with the five random quests?

1 daily / day (random from the 5 quests)
Total of 243 days to buy all except jewelcrafters only gems. Of course in the meantime Blizzard will propably add epic gems which will make the ones that you already bought useless, so you'll need to start farm again...

Great! You nedd 475 skill to buy 465 skill recipe! :D

Made to slow down leveling. Blizzard wanted to be sure that before you will be able to buy this recipe it'll be already yellow to you so it'll have lower chance of granting skill point.

Comment by ognennyy

Yeah except that.... there is absolutely nothing random about it. It's like saying that if you're playing texas holdem and flop a 4-flush draw, whether or not you hit is random. It's not random... you will hit that flush a little better than 1 in 3 times. Same with prospecting. If you prospect so many times, you WILL get a given number of all the gems possible. Any other outcome is mathematically impossible, and therefore not random.

Comment by bovonpwnz

The wotlk tokens could also be purchased with titanium powders if I remember correctly. (10 Titanium powder = 1 token, I think) Is there a powder that can be traded in for these tokens?

Edit: why downrate? Simply asking a question. Everyone is mad.

Comment by Morhobin

Cool.

Comment by Carukia

All of the daily quests are obvious Futurama references. It makes these monotonous quests that I'll be doing every day slightly more bearable.

Comment by masacru

unless you're not watching futurama thus making these quests unbearable

Comment by cozzy02

Does anyone know if they'll be adding in objects to turn in for tokens, like they did for wrath?

Comment by Randoom

if your spending gold on nightstones your an idiot, your a JC for christ's sake, pick up mining and prospect the ore, you get heaps of gems and anything left over you wont use later on you can sell for a !@#$e load and be rich....use your noggin (fogger elixer*) .... ZING!

Comment by Drazj

They won't be ):

Comment by Trixei

Go to Stormwind for the daily (you need to be 475 to obtain it)

Here is the list of Dailys and what you need (Its best to have a Mining charc and mine elementium ore or pyrite ore - best place is twilight highlands)

A Present for Lila - Timeless Nightstones cut x3
Elemental Goo - 10 x elemental goo from any cata elementals
Nibbler! No! - Solid zephyrite cut x 3
Ogrezonians in the Mood - Jagged jasper cut x 3
The Latest fashion! - Stardust #2 tested x 10 on any humanoids

Comment by wotfdirt

All are talking about new epic cuts, there wont be any new epic cuts,the reason is simple, all professions are made to give equal bonuses.
For JC u get to put 3 JC gems, which gives a bonus equal to 2 rare gems.
For BS u get 2 sockets = another 2 rare gems.
For Mining u get 120 stamina = 2 rare gems.
For Skinning u get 80 crit rating = 2 rare gems again..

So it can be concluded that there wont be any epic cuts added

Comment by jmredmon

His logic is more fail considering they dealt with this exact issue by making all other profession bonuses higher when they released the epic gems in Wrath. He proved himself as a nub.

Comment by ColferMelfofo

Basically worthless

Comment by ColferMelfofo

Basically worthless

Comment by Krixal

Is there a limit to how many of these you can have stockpiled?

Comment by Peycy

just want to point out
Also, how does tailoring (among whose benefits is less materials for the same leg enchant that anyone can get) or herbalism (whose benefit is a +haste and heal-over-time spell)
^ is no longer a heal over time.. it now gives you crappy small amount of instant heal when you use it i think its max 8-10hp tops instead it gives you the haste for the time its on you
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after patch 4.0... heals you for 4% of your total health... (wildly insiginifcant :s )

but the 240 haste for 20 seconds every 2 minutes, off the GCD makes for a rather fancy trinket booster.

Comment by seyandiz

Is there a way to use ..GetItemCount(" ").. with this currency? I am trying to use it so I have a macro that tells how many I have in my currency tab, since this is not a physical item.

Comment by Mage12322

Actually there is a very easy way to do this with no macro. Press C then go to the currency tab, and click your Illustrious jewelcrafter's token. A little window should come up. Tick the box 'show in backpack'. It's under your gold whenever you open your bag now :D

However, this function doesn't seem to co-operate with my bag addon "OneBag3"

Comment by biswalcmos

By Onijin: Technically speaking, if either of the premises or the conclusion is false, then the argument is invalid, and therefore, illogical.

The sentence as you are quoting it is correct but... technically speaking, no one talked about arguments, you did. Mvdonkey simply said "your logic is fail". Saying that other professions bonuses are roughly equal to 2 rare gems cut isn't illogical. You can say "yeah, but saying that because of that there won't be any gem cuts is wrong, therefore his argument is wrong, bla bla.." but as i said.. no one talked about arguments.

Tailoring benefits from special cloak enchants that proc (i don't know the mats, but i guess blizz balanced it somehow).
Herbalism healing is practically nonexistent now (roughly 1k instant not hot), and its haste effect (as tailoring's one) is a temporary buff, not a static stat.

Comment by chrizzyp13

does anybody know if this share's the same cap as the cookin awards at 10? or are we able to stockpile these up so when the epic gems finally hit we can buy most of the good ones an make sum quick cash :)

Comment by bwh318

Actually, the only way something is invalid is if there exists a case in which all of the premises are true and the conclusion is false.

Comment by martinez93

Blue/Red/Yellow Gems = 3x tokens for each design
Blue = 4designs
Red = 5designs
Yellow = 5designs
= 42x tokens for base colors

Green/Purple/Orange = 3x tokens for each design
Green = 11designs
Purple = 11designs
Orange = 16designs
= 114x tokens for mixed colors

Meta = 4x tokens for each design
Meta gem = 16designs
= 64x tokens for all meta designs

For all non-JC only gems = 220x tokens

Jc only gems = 2x tokens for each design
Chimera's eye = 14designs

Did not include the rings, amulets and other things you can get for tokens, only gems that currently exist in 4.0.6

Comment by grasshopper51003

Edit:

As of 4.3, 66 epic JC patterns have been added at a cost of five tokens each, or we can learn a random pattern for four tokens using Tome of Burning Jewels.

To buy all the epic patterns, this requires 330 tokens to buy each pattern specifically or 264 tokens to buy them all through the tome.

We now need 611 or 545 tokens for all the purchasable Cata JC patterns.

The Jewelcrafting Supplies vendor has:

Fourteen Chimera's Eye patterns at two tokens each ( 28 )

plus fifty two rare gem patterns at three tokens each ( 156 )

plus thirteen meta gem patterns at four tokens each ( 52 )

plus nine jewelery patterns at five tokens each ( 45. )

So you need 281 tokens to purchase all the patterns from the vendor.

Comment by SoooWhoCares

A shame that there's no reference to anyone but Leela and Nibbler. If there were quests related to the Professor or Bender we could have plenty of random fun.

Comment by coyote72

At the moment, you can only get one per day. Have fun.

Comment by amzraptor

reaching 130 now, what are people's opinions regarding the release of epic gems will all our tokens be converted to gold? or there maybe a different token then?

Comment by GUSIS

To get all of sick cata JC reciepes,you`ll need to complete exactly 281 daily in a row(each day) !

As i believe,they made this,for poeple,who wanna get some money from AH,if i need 281 day to get all gem cuts + trinks,i wont buy some str + stam as a mage,because i`ll better get some hit+haste(just incase).So market for JC is splited for "clases" partly.From one side it`s a good idea,but form other,this is my proffesion & i can`t get all reciepes to sell items for golds - seems abit wrong.... I`m not talking about some drop epic reciepes !

Blizz fails once again...

Comment by larosejh

So far the recipes are learned from Tome of Burning Jewels.
I am still praying that those are purchased from JC tokens and are not drops off bosses in the new 5man dungeons or raids.

Comment by evoker

With the latest 4.3 build (14849), vendors have been added in Orgrimmar and Stormwind. Each epic gem recipe costs 5 tokens and the Tome of Burning Jewels can be purchased for 4 tokens.

Here's a screenshot from the SW vendor: http://i.imgur.com/tkESk.jpg
Thanks to Migari from the MMO-Champion forums for the image.

Comment by gormal

It seems that these drop from Fire Prisms now. No idea on the drop rate other than its not 100%

Comment by Halt009

This is upsetting

Comment by Seanbevan666

EVERYBODY! YOU WILL NEED THESE TOKENS FOR THE NEW EPIC GEM RECIPE'S FOR 4.3!

Comment by lankybrit

You get these from the Jewelcrafting daily.

Cheers.

Comment by Kozuka

1 quest per day !

it really sucks

Comment by GeoffGORE

You get 1 a day, 7 days in a week.
In total, you can buy two recipes a week, 3 every 3 weeks.

Comment by dwarfmasterr

I don't think anyone has mentioned it yet, but every quest mention's a reference to Futurama. I'm not sure what relevance it has to Jewelcrafting, but hey... I'm a big Futurama fan lol

Comment by Ezzechia

Does anyone still spend any time making older gems, like wrath or bc? I am noticing there a somewhat of a market for this.

Comment by pacman123

cool thing

Comment by Jubb

I think it's about time they added a way to get these without doing the daily. If they put them at the vendor for 4k justice points each that would increase 5 man activity and allow us to get the patterns faster.

Comment by intron

blizzard should make something like damaged necklaces...

Comment by xpuntar

Considering how fast you can level your char and gear it up at lvl. 85 it is just unbelievably silly (and stupid) to only get 1 token per day.

Even getting recipes for jewel crafter and only 1 alt (which are sharing primary attribute!) can get really tedious with this extremely slow pacing acquisition of profession tokens.

You are actually forced to grind for at least 15 days + consecutively to get the recipe cuts for main and off- spec even when chars are sharing attributes.

When you consider that Blizzard is now even encouraging playing with more than 1 char it would be wise to remove the burden of everyday jewelcrafing token farming.

Comment by Galactra

Anyone noticing that we don't seem to be able to continue grabbing the daily for the Illustrious JC tokens? Looked on launch day and 2nd day after launch of MoP and still no daily quest in Org. Is this being taken out?

Comment by Mormolyce

If you thought collecting all the Dalaran Token daily patterns was a big chore...

And there's no equivalent of Titanium Powder hand-ins either. Dailies for almost two years! Makes MoP dailies seem reasonable!

Comment by Justathot

been doing the dailies and farming the ghost iron ore, now for some reason i can't prspect the lower gems for the dalies, any clues?
my mining is at 600 jc is at 586

Comment by myrkat

Might as well do at least three (3) dailies to get a recipe if you are just leveling up Jewelcrafting post-cataclysm. I got really stuck around 495, where only Hessonite Band and Nightstone Choker gave skill-ups. This, in turn, made Hessonite and Nightstone hard to come by.

I even made The Perforator because of the dearth of Hessonite and Nightstone!

So unless one plans ahead and saves all the Hessonite and Nightstone they come across, leveling to the end of 500 skill in jc can be a bit of a bottleneck without one of the daily-token rewarded recipes.

Comment by sysgnosis

Are there any patterns these can buy that would be considered good to have for any reason? I have six of the tokens, so I figure I may as well use them, but if any of the patterns are actually relevant anymore...I can't tell.

Comment by Taraezor

To judge your progress with the Epic cuts. Open the JC profession panel. Only then should you run the macro:

/run local c,r,w,z=0,0,{"uee","Lava","dow S","Lights","olm","lven"},{0,0,0,0,0,0} for i=1,863 do local s=GetTradeSkillInfo(i) or 1 for j=1,6 do if strfind(s,w) then r=r+1 z=z+1 end end end print(r.."/66") for i=1,6 do print(z,w) end

Heck this takes a real long time to grind.

Comment by lecanard2

is this new!

Comment by Delaios

If you are trying to get all the patterns, you'll need a lot of Jasper, Zephyrite and Nightstone. You can get them by prospecting, but that will only give you gems you need for the dailies less than half the time. I've found Giant Sack to be a good source for ONLY Jasper, Zephyrite and Nightstone. The sack drops from 2 mini bosses in Zul Gurub, both located near the venom boss. It will allways yield some Elementium Ore and 2 of the gems you need for the Cata JC dailies.
The mini bosses are soloable by any class. They do a fair amount of damage, but only have 1.6 million health. What's even better is that you can farm two mounts while you're at it. It's also very easy to get to Zul Gurub by taking a portal to any home city, then taking the portal there to the Blasted Lands. From there it's a very short flight to Zul Gurub.

Comment by dle0105

As stated by Delaios, the Giant Sack that is dropped in Zul'Gurub by Kaulema the Mover and Mor'Lek the Dismantler, contains Elementium Ore and two of the gems needed for the Cataclysm Jewelcrafting daily.

You can get 20 of these per one hour instance lockout by killing both enemies that drop them and then running out of the instance and resetting it.

As long as you don't kill any real bosses, they will keep respawning and dropping the bags.

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Comment by Naztheras

3 expansions later, still takes months to farm it all, I bet it is "working as intended"

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