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Крайне мощный талант поддержки, усиливающий Вспышка Света:

1 заряд - небольшое уменьшение стоимости заклинания.
2 заряда - время произнесения заклинания скорее всего будет <0.5 секунды (прервать практически невозможно), заметное уменьшение стоимости заклинания.
3 заряда - мгновенное произнесение, не стоит ни единицы маны, может исцелить союзника чуть ли не на 3/4 запаса здоровья (либо вас на 1/3).

Т.к. благодаря классовой специализации Паладин-воздаятель может применять Правосудие, активирующее талант, куда более чаще, то и применять усиленную вспышку света для поддержки союзников или самолечения он тоже будет гораздо чаще, что положительно скажется на выживаемости группы/самого Паладина.

Комментарий от Jareck89

С 5.4 стал актуален и для хилов. Мое мнение, что в 10 в принципе он не нужен, а вот в 25 выигрывает у ЕФ и тем более щита, быстрый набор энергии света и как итог спам фонариков и конечно же усиленное на 105% святое сияние. Куемся в мастери-хаст и смотрим на удивленные лица шаманов\друидов

One question still remains - why is the icon for this spell, Speed of Light, Protector of the Innocent and Clarity of Purpose the WoW "W"?

Wait a minute...

Tanks and healers are the valuable roles in PvE.
DPS and healers are the valuable roles in PvP.

OMG HEALERS RUN WORLD OF WARCRAFT, IT IS A CONSPIRACY!1111oneoneone

(and this truth is hidden in healing-related talents in the all three trees of a hybrid class, no less)

...or maybe I'm just odd. Nah, I prefer the conspiracy thing.

Комментарий от Hordehunterr

I like this because when your tank or teammate is about to go down and you have some holy power on you you can heal the target and get a little damage boost with it and this can be very nice in pvp to when you lack healers you can use your nearest retribution paladin as a substitute to keep the flag carriers up in a few instances

Комментарий от tehdan

I don't think that speccing into this will be a dps increase. The effect only lasts 10 seconds so just using templar's verdict would be a better idea in most situations.

This seems like a clear cut PVP talent.

Комментарий от Badunkadunk

Truly only works "When you heal others"... just incase you wondered... hehe

Комментарий от Genitorturer

Unless they up the duration of this, it's pretty worthless in PVE. Skip it.

Комментарий от azndudex

Anybody knows if this would take into effect the HoT on /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\124cffffffff\124Hitem:66918:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h\124h\124r");? If it does your looking at 16sec buff.

Комментарий от azndudex

Does anybody know if this talent takes in effect the HoT from Символ Защитника добра ? Because if it does your looking at 16sec dmg increase.

Комментарий от Wirxaw

So...protection paladins solo all dungeons after getting Guarded by the Light...retri paladins can outheal dedicated healers....what next?

Edit: of course, this is not an aoe heal, and can not be spammed(normally). But boosting DPS' healing to other targets SO much......I dont understand, what for?

Комментарий от Moodknight

Don't get this talent at all, only can be useful when lvling in dungs, although holy power is not worth wasting it for WoG when u can push dps on target, using it for TV.
Maybe it will find its perfect place to be used but i stay for old school ur-spec-only using tacs.

Saw some rets from good guilds having this talent, don't get what r they trying to outheal xD
12% dmg for 10sec means u have to refresh effect pretty much often, wasting 3 HP charges. Sounds ridiculous.
Both healing and dps aspect of the spell is a bit useless for my little mind =)

Комментарий от jtunis

This is not something you refresh. This is something that helps you when you decide to help your teammates in tough situations. It is situational, but not worthless. With this talent, I have prevented deaths more times than I can recall; not because of the damage buff, but because of the large boost in potency (50%) when using Word of Glory on others. This is a talent full of marvelous potential: from when the healer becomes incapacitated or dies early, to when a pull goes south and the group could use extra heals. The talent's name should provide insight to what its intentions are.

This is a worthwhile talent if you enjoy playing a hybrid, and enjoy playing him/her correctly. Ignoring your class potential (and possibly allowing a wipe when you could have prevented it) to put larger numbers on a damage meter is not in the spirit of the game. If your heals prevented a wipe, then it is a wise use of Holy Power, not a waste.

Комментарий от boballoo

I gotta say this talent looks awesome. I'm not in a top 10 guild where we farm raids two weeks after they go live, we work for our raids and it's not always pretty but we get it done. This is one of those talents that gets you noticed, I don't give a crap if I'm number 3 on the DPS chart and it's stupid to put that above all else if you can't even down a boss. DPS comes easy, its the coordination and flexibility of the raid members that makes it work, this is why I love this talent.

Комментарий от jeffmd

The biggest problem I see is with the duration. In order to cast it on someone else you need to target them first, this means interrupting your dps. No one seems to have demonstrated that the loss of dps for the small period of time when selecting and healing someone is made up or increased by the buff. On the other hand this may be more proof it is a pvp talent and not a pve one. pvp is more about spike damage and boosting heals in a group that is week on heals would really be a tactical boon.

Комментарий от Genitorturer

Blizzard says a lot of things.

Комментарий от Genitorturer

Lots of people trying to defend this talent...

Good thing Word of Glory heals for so much -- oh wait.

Good thing our DPS rotation is super easy and forgiving -- oh wait.

Good thing we have so many talent points to work this in with, that wouldn't be better suited to up our consistent DPS 'cause raid leaders don't care about that -- oh wait.

Good thing that, when the bad sh*t goes down, we'll be able to use Word of Glory repeatedly -- oh wait.

...But by all means, please spec this talent. I'm sure it will (won't) be very useful.

Комментарий от Saela

You don't necessarily need to target someone to heal them. Mouseover macros are very common for healers, but there's no reason you can't make one if you're specced to dps.

#showtooltip Word of Glory
/cast Word of Glory; Word of Glory; word of glory

With a macro like the above, just hovering your cursor over a person (or their name) is enough to "target" them with the heal.

As for demonstrating why this talent is better in spite of the lost dps, it's simple. If it stops your group from wiping, then you're avoiding the 100% loss in dps that accompanies being dead. Surprisingly, being a good dpser can be about more than your number in Recount.

Yes, this sort of thing is probably not necessary with established raid groups and the like. But for random pug heroics, or for raids that're limping along? These things happen.

Комментарий от Genitorturer

I'll go ahead and rescind my trolls about this talent, as a lot of things have changed in Cataclysm. If and when I ever go back to Ret (I've departed to Prot and don't want to come back for awhile), this talent might be a little handy.

During a boss fight with heavy damage, one trick that Retadins can use to help the tank as well as keep their DPS going is the following macro. At the beginning of every run, right-click the tank and set focus on them for this macro to work.

#showtooltip
/cast Word of Glory

One may argue that others need heals too, however I can tell you that 99% of the time, if a dps/ healer is taking damage, so is the tank, and both of them are going to need to eventually be healed. Let your healer help out of the dps and just keep the tank's health pool going.

To truly utilize and spam this talent, you'd want Eternal Glory as well, to fit in some Templar's Verdicts on proc.

Комментарий от Emblem

If you want to see why to take this as a DPS skip to the bottom of post...

Anyone remember 'shock'adins?
-Holy paladins with talents leaning towards DPS

in other words DPS>Healer or was it Healer>DPS w/e.

I always saw Shockadin's as a style of play rather than talent build set like using an Art of War proc on Flash of Light rather than Exo. when the healer slips. (back when that was the case) My buddies didn't let me run with them w/o addons so I got Healbot... as Ret. ended up as the group healer but that's a different story :P

there's plenty of low talents the buff/benifit WofG
-Eternal Glory
-Last Word
-Protector of the Innocent
-Rule of Law

if you grab Protector of the Innocent you don't have to worry as you normally would be when using Hand of Sacrifice.

well there's some Ideas for you "Shockadin" Dreamers like me...
-Just Configure Healbot to only cast Word of Glory and Hand of Sacrifice ...It's not like you're secretly OS-Heals or MS-Heals... but remember "It's a Secret" :P

...Anyways for you DPS only people you're spec'ing into the Zealotry talent anyway! CS = 3HP that's +12% and if I'm reading the spell correctly it's regardless of over-heals you just have to target someone else..

Комментарий от Ithuraen

Shows people's priorities in this game when sacrificing DPS to potentially save someone is seen as a selfless act.

Комментарий от abrehcnung

with the 20-sec cooldown for WoG in Ret and Prot trees planned for 4.1 (Holy's will not have CD because of their mastery), I think skipping this talent will be the best option.
Although it isstill might be useful when you decide to heal someone, you may use WoG less often.
Still, it is not ment to be use constantly to increase dmg done 12%, but to maintain some dps when you decide to

PD: still not liking this talent, but not hating it

Комментарий от djimatt

This talent should be in the Holy Tree.

Комментарий от abrehcnung

Speculated change
Paladin

Retribution
Seal of Truth now deals 15% weapon damage once stacked to 5 times, up from 9% weapon damage.
Selfless Healer now lasts 30 sec, up from 10 sec.

not official post yet, this is taken from mmochampion, discussion now are if this would still be a loss of dps or a gain.
further testing may clarify this point

however, it still would be another 30sec duration buff that spends 3 charges of holy power.

Комментарий от slmovies07

Tier 5 of the Retribution Tree

Комментарий от rodmin

At the PTR of 4.2.0 atm, it will also reduce the cooldown of Word of Glory by 5/10 seconds.

Using this talent to its full extent will give the spell just 10 seconds of cooldown. What happens here is that this talent will give two choices:

1: If you use it to heal another player, you will heal him with 50% more power, and you will have to wait another 10 seconds to cast it again. By coincidence (or maybe not), you'll get a damage buff of 12% if you used 3 charges for 10 seconds. So, by timing your heals, you'll stay with the buff up while you're giving a friend a small help, assuming that your Crusader Strike is currently at a cooldown of around 3 seconds, ignoring Divine Purpose procs.

2: You use it to heal yourself. You'll have to rely on Divine Purpose procs (and RNG can be quite a bastard sometimes) to refresh your Inquisition or using Templar's Veredict, or use Zealotry to go around that for a few seconds. You won't get the buffs on healing and damage though.

Комментарий от Deathbang

Unless they up the duration of this, it's pretty worthless in PVE. Skip it.

Helping your fellow raid/dungeon members is worthless? Sounds like somebody is NOT a selfless healer!

Комментарий от Nerfpl

DPS shouldn't heal unless its some passive mechanic.

This talent from the beginning looks like PVP arena talent.

Комментарий от Moethetroll

Why is there such a debate on this talent? This provides an enormous amount of flexibility to your play. This talent exemplifies what it is to be a paladin (even in the name) and reflects their ability to fill multiple roles at the same time. If you are so stuck on maximizing your DPS, think of it this way: you can't DPS when you're dead. Your friends can't DPS when they're dead. Your healers can't heal when they're dead.

Catch my drift? Saving people from dying sure as hell beats missing a step in your DPS rotation. With this talent, you can do this frequently, and will notice that you do end up doing this a lot.

Комментарий от xXxDSMer

This would be a good one for Ret (going to be using judgment anyway, mights well have a free 50k FoL on standby for others, or 25k for self, to save holy power for damaging abilities)

Or for a Holy if said holy can slide in judgments here and there. I tried this with a macro that was supposed to just judge my focus's target, but it kept changing my target to my focus (the tank)'s target instead.

But for Ret i'd go with this for the free double strength FoL (double when used to heal others, always free after 3 judgment), or sacred shield because it costs nothing.. could put shield on a tank that doesn't have it, on the healer, or on self.

my original comment inspired by "moethetroll" 's comment but moved to a seperate post b/c it's based on 5.0.4
Shouldn't be such a debate on this talent lol... if a Ret picks it, they're going to be hitting judgment anyway.. and they've got a 50k (if not more), free and instant cast flash of light waiting for if the tank or heals needs it to save their butt. Or a free instant ~25k FoL for theirself (which doesn't use holy power either, so can use that holy power for TV, DS, harsh words, INQ, etc)... Selfless would actually save your holy power, and grant the ability to sometimes toss a heal while not hurting DPS output because didn't spend HoPo on word of glory / eternal flame. As moe mentioned, a dead anyone is no good. Especially if the tank or heals dies.. most of the time a wipe will follow.

Комментарий от Vedrian

This is quite literally the greatest talent ever for leveling your paladin. I don't know how many times I've popped this and been restored to full health while taking on 4-5 mobs at a time. It allows you to have absolutely no downtime between mobs and you can scoop up all of the mobs in an area with no fear because you can simply pop this when your damage becomes too great. In terms of the leveling phase of your character there is absolutely no contest between this talent and the other two available at 45. I love it.

Комментарий от idhauntthat

Вспышка Света's, Вспышка Света's everywhere!.....But in all seriousness, I do enjoy this talent as ret, since as others have said, I'm going to be judging anyways so I can do dmg and gain HPower. Also, having a heal that costs over 33% of my mana being instant cast is quite a nice compensation. Also, with Ret, this talent can be used to get not only an ***instacast*** Вспышка Света, but also a (+100% heal effect!) Меч Света **and** (100% crit chance after a kill) Мольба. Not 2 shabby my fellow paladins. :<

Комментарий от Bogdanov89

As a Protection Paladin, your Bastion of Glory stacks can be consumed by Selfless Healer's Flash of Light to increase the self-healing of that specific Flash of Light.

Each of Bastion of Glory's stacks (up to 5) will increase the SH's Flash of Light when used for self healing - you only need 1 stack of Selfless Healer itself (instead of 2 or 3) to gain the full benefit of this mechanic.

So, to summarize:

Bastion of Glory stacks (up to 5) can be consumed to increase the healing of Selfless Healer's Flash of Light when used on yourself.

To activate this benefit from Bastion of Glory you need at least 1 stack of Selfless Healer.

Комментарий от SapAuthor

From a PVE Raid Healer, to be honest in 6.0 this is the best of the tiers, hands down. I've been able to keep mana and increase heals the most through this skill.

Let's break it down:

Judgment is an instant cast, no mana spell with a 5 second cooldown, a perfect trailer to your heals.
Each cast your flash of light is 33% more powerful, 33% cheaper, and 33% faster.
At 3 it's an instant free double heal, that costs nothing, and allows you to use your holy points as you wish.

I didn't believe it at first, I've used Eternal Flame all of MoP. But it's true, and the trick is simply utilizing it. I have my power auras set to notify me when judgment is ready, and when i have 3 stacks of selfless heals.

During the course of Tectus, i was able to cast Judgment 23 times....

That's roughly 8 free heals at about 40k (double powered)
I healed 320k healing for FREE
Using Holy Light otherwise that would cost me 52800 mana
I also got to use my Holy Points for Light of Dawn (856k) and Word of Glory Heals (330k).

I also noticed the more i utilized this, the higher my heals where and i didn't got oom like the other healers where.

As much as it sucked in MoP, WoD this is actually really awesome (since holy points are so hard to generate now and expensive with Holy Radiance).

Try it and practice it, i think this is where the real raid healers will shine using this.

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Требуется: Паладин
Требует уровень: 45

Успешно примененное заклинание "Правосудие" сокращает время произнесения следующего заклинания "Вспышка Света" и затраты маны на него на 35% и увеличивает его эффективность на

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