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Well if you read what the spell says "reduces spell damage done to party or raid members inside it by 75 percent. (it) lasts for 30 seconds or until it absorbs 10,000 damage plus 2x your attack power"

So it first says its going to reduce all magic damage by 75 percent period, it then says it lasts till it has absorbed the 10,000 plus damage. I may be wrong but im pretty sure the damage its talking about is the damage you actually receive not the damage you would receive if there was no shield because i think it would say if that was the case. Also you get 2x your ap and at 80 that's gonna be like 3k or more so that's another 6k plus. AND on top of that if they are trying to damage you its going to be even less if you use your anti-magic shell you will take either no magic damage at all or hardly any while in the anti-magic zone.

Комментарий от DarkReborn

With this plus Rank 5 on the Magic Supression talent Unholy DK's are gonna be taking very little spell damage.

Комментарий от 7598462153

Both this and Anti-Magic Shell have cooldowns longer than their duration, so there's definitely a point to using both, but not at the same time (I'm assuming they don't share a cooldown.) Plus, you get runic power from absorbing magic with Anti-Magic Shell, so that would probably be better for one on one.

Комментарий от Zcuron

Impurity should increase this to 2.5*AP.

Комментарий от manicmania

anyone up for some halo?

Комментарий от Xhenohn

The formula to know how much damage must anyone do to blow your bubble is
(10000 + 2*AP) / 0.75
So, with 1k ap
(10000 + 2000) / 0.75 = 16k damage to blow the bubble.
With the talent impurity the formula becomes
(10000 + 2.5*AP) / 0.75
With 1k ap
(10000 + 2500) / 0.75 = 16666.67 damage.

Комментарий от Karashk

I've noticed that the Anti-Magic Barrier talent also works on Anti-Magic Zone. But since the Zone didn't absorb 100%, merely 95% spell damage, I think it's a bug.

- Scorch hits you for 12 Fire (236 absorbed)

Комментарий от Xhenohn

Well, it can be because of:
a) Impurity doesn't affect AMZ. If so, forget the second part of the post.
b) Impurity does affect AMZ, but it just doesn't update the tooltip.
I'll see if I can test it today or tomorrow, will be back with an answer as quick as I can ^^.

PD: In my post, I mean the amount that someone must do to blow your bubble, if your bubble absorbs 12004 damage, it means that someone will have to do X damage (16k in this case), and of that X damage, 75% of it will be absorbed by the bubble (12k), consuming the bubble, and 25% will be taken by the player (4k).

Комментарий от enchantroll

Just curious, but how is this OP (or even useful) in arena or in duels? Casters can just /shrug and stay out of the Anti-Magic Zone. Fine, yeah, their DPS is reduced by 75%, but the Death Knight is predominantly a melee class. If I were a lock or a mage, I'd gladly stand at max range and nuke the DK while he twiddles his thumbs inside this shield and does nothing to me.

From what I can tell, Death Grip is the ONLY mitigating factor that makes this spell viable in PvP. God help you if it gets resisted or if the mage just blinks back out. Then it's back to being a sitting duck in the Anti-Magic Zone. Death Grip will be back in 35 seconds, but the AMZ will be gone by then.

On the PvE side, however, I can conceive of several boss fights where the AMZ (or multiple AMZs) will make a hard fight easy or turn an easy fight into a laugher. It's probably going to be a nice crutch for some difficult caster bosses.

Комментарий от Maxilimus

Destro Lock 51 talent " Chaos Bolt" should pierce this bubble, along with the shell as they are absorption effects.

Комментарий от waytofailself

I wouldn't say very little. This spell is on a 3 minute cooldown, and if the DK casts it on him/herself then all of the melee who could potentially be hit by magic effects are also going to be affected (and how many bosses have AoE magic nowadays? Many)

Then there's Anti-Magic Shell, which is great when talented (100%) and glphyed (10 second duration), but it's on a 1 minute cooldown (longer when glyphed).

Will DKs take less damage than other tanks? Sure, if they use their skills judiciously. But I wouldn't make such broad, overarching assumptions. Our primary form of mitigation is still armor, and that is followed up by our forms of avoidance: dodge and parry. None of those work to stop magic damage.

Комментарий от Greatbrae

50% of the a ret paladins spell damage avoids this effect as well when they have the talent http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=53376#comments (Sanctified Wrath) and pop they're (Avenging Wrath) http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=31884.

Комментарий от 7598462153

Doesn't look like it, but it does scale significantly with AP.

Комментарий от Deathrune

Anyone know if this ability is worth using on Loken? Final boss of HoL.

Комментарий от Drenvion

Anti-Magic Zone (AMZ)

Will be placed where you are standing.
Scales with your Attack Power, formula being 10000 + (AP*2)
Impurity does not increase the coefficiency of AMZ.

Will add more onto this post some time in the future, most has already been explained. Overall I think it's worth it's 1point, you will want Magic Supression as a tank anyway.
Feel free to add your own comments and I will put them up on the list.

Комментарий от Bloodsword

This has been nerfed.

Patch 3.0.8

Anti-Magic Zone now lasts 10 seconds or until it absorbs spell damage. (Down from 30 seconds)

Комментарий от hpavc

1000 + (2 * ap)

1002 * ap would be a serious buff

Комментарий от KingAnubis7

This along with the magic suppression that lets you get this talent in the first place allows for 100% spell dmg reduction meaning that you will not be affected by your opponents stacked SP so it will only allow for the amount it tells you in the spell...

Like if a mage casts a frost bolt and it does 345-410 then that will only be the amount you will receive not if your opponents SP is like in the 1000s.

Комментарий от Lehto

Or Sartharion +3

Комментарий от Seyvyur

he got it right, learn order of operations.

Комментарий от Afoxi

Tanks with Bladed Armor will see a nice boost to the absorbed amount when they go into Frost Presence.

EDIT: Not much, but still nice to know.

Комментарий от mark8264

This is completely wrong, it means you get a 100% reduction in the damage taken, so regardless of the base damage, or any damage the spell does to you, it will always do 0 damage. It has nothing to do with spell damage.

What I fail to grasp as well is that you post false information about a talent at a complete different talent. Please put discussion about that talent at the comments of that particular talent rather than at another talent.

Комментарий от Darkrainin

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Комментарий от Deivijs

Was no need to downrate this... He was just pointing out how the attack power gained from armor would increase the capacity of the shield.
"The Anti-Magic Zone lasts for 10 sec or until it absorbs spell damage."
EDIT: Even though that kind of tanking spec would be quite terrible.

Комментарий от StreamlineProxy

Can be used while falling to make a big purple bubble in the sky.

Комментарий от Yukazi

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Комментарий от Groundlord

Would it be a bad idea for a DPS to pick this up?

Комментарий от Indrigis

It would be nice to know how this works with overkill damage.

Assuming five people stand in a tight formation under the shell and a 10 000 damage splash lands on them, how much damage do they take? Let's say the shell had 20 000 durability. Is it '2500 damage to everyone and the bubble bursts' or do two of them take 2500 damage, the third one 5000 damage (exhausting the absorbption capability) and the other two a full 10 000?

Also, does it take into account the magic resistance of those inside? Say, those protected were two rogues using CoS, a paladin with DS up and a DK using AMS. Will the shell take any damage from incoming magic attacks during this?

Комментарий от Abomb

if there r 2 or more DKs and they both cast the spell over the same arena and players will the effect stack up to absorb a super big aoe damage such as dark vortex for twin val'kyr or sapphirons ice breath?

Комментарий от Oniguru

sadly this isn't the DK version of a bubble hearth...

But then again we can summon portals... That and we don't need to wait 30 mins or have fobearance!

That and summon minions that keeps people busy... a more epic escape I should say

Комментарий от Oakenshadow

So if i get the formula right, this spell lets the death knight and everyone else inside the bubble take 75% less spell damage until the bubble absorbs 10K spell damage plus an amount equal to 2x the death knight's attack power. e.g. a death knight has 5K attack power, the bubble absorbs 20K spell damage.

Комментарий от safafawgar

Комментарий от Amrun

For PvP, this can be a miracle to stop those multiboxing shamans or just attackers from afar. In PvE, it can be very useful or very useless, depending on the situation. For example, if somehow you got an unholy DK to drop this on the tanks during the Sindragosa fight right before she used Frost Breath, it could save the healers a lot of trouble for that one attack.

Комментарий от Muzzle248

If you view this in 3-D it's a totem.

Комментарий от bogoradwee

Or deep freeze.

Комментарий от Aaro

I have an issue with this in Cata. Right now, this is an ability (along with the magic shell) that tanks would want. But in Cata, it's still in the Unholy tree, making you spend 4 non-DPS talent points. While some could say it's intended for PvP, that's not entirely true since a giant zone shield like this would be far more useful in a raid setting. Generally, the Unholy DK is no longer a support or tanking-optional class; this shouldn't be in their tree anymore.

A little early to complain, etc etc, since it's beta, but I'm concerned they'll leave a cool ability in a tree position that every Unholy DK will ignore.

Комментарий от DarkReborn

I heard from someone that this doesn't work in PvE. I couldn't help but laugh.

Комментарий от Asclepius99

I was really considering picking this up for my dps spec because there's very little Heroic bosses I can think of where it wouldn't be great to have an anti-magic zone toward the end of a fight or when aoe damage is at its worst...

but then I came here to examine it and found that the 23,066 damage it absorbs is already taking into account the AP bonus. >.<
23k may seem like a lot, but I'm quite displeased at this measly amount. In raids and heroics this is just crap unless your tank is on the brink of death from magic damage, in which case it will only give him a couple seconds for another heal, assuming the healer isn't out of mana.

The problem with this, is that it's no where near a party-wide savior. Costing 4 talents points, 23k damage absorbed is pathetic (compared to what I had in mind that might actually be a decent help).

Say you want to throw this over the tank... but doing that puts 3 people standing in it (such as in a 5-man with 2 melee), each person will only absorb 7666 damage until it breaks. Not too shabby? That's maybe 1 tick of most aoe ticks bosses do, let alone an actual attack!

For instance, Anraphet, in HoO, aoe ticks for 5k, and does Alpha Beams that hit for 20k each second -- to each person! And, many other bosses have harder hitting abilities. And, if the AMZ is meant for the tank, it is going to be shared by the melee regardless, if from aoe attacks.

For 5-mans, I wouldn't say this a waste, just an expensive little helper for the tank/healer on a 2min CD.

For 10-mans, however.. >.< If you have 5 melee/tanks, 4600 damaged absorbed really isn't going to make or break anything or save the tanks, and will be hardly noticed.

Комментарий от Zixx777

Currently bugged and only affects party members, not raid.

This would be a great raid survivability cooldown, if it affected the raid as the tooltip indicates.

The Anti-Magic Zone isn't always capped at the tooltip amount. If the damage occurs at the EXACT same time, everyone in the party takes the 75% reduced damage (as an absorb) before the zone breaks. In raids, that normally equates to everyone in the party taking ~30k less damage; imagine the effect if it affected the raid.

Amazing for abilities like Valiona's Blackout & Twilight Meteorite, Halfus' Shadow Nova, Nefarian's Electrocute, Nezir's Sleet Storm and the list goes on.

Комментарий от Keelerak

The problem of this spell is that it doesn´t scale with level at all. 10k + 2xAP was good for 80s, but isn´t for 85s. ~35k + 2xAP should be fine

Комментарий от ArMeDSuRvIvOr

Honestly, I can't help but feel this ability is weak at level 85. It was fine for 80, but doesn't scale well now.

If the formula was just 30k AP + 4xAP it would be fine, considering these absorbs don't take into account any resilience you have when you cast it, meaning that, for example, a 10k damage Frostbolt against you would deal 20k against the Anti-Magic Zone, reducing its effectiveness by quite a lot. (I pulled the numbers out of my ass for the sake of the example! :P)

For further examples, my Anti-Magic Zone only absorbs 31k spell damage, which is gone instantly in PvP and PvE scenarios.

I wonder if it could ever receive the *Power Word: Barrier treatment, where it would reduce spell damage by a set amount (75%) for 10 seconds, no absorption mechanics. This way it would be worth it to spec into for PvE as some sort of defensive cooldown for the raid and in PvP it wouldn't just be gone in 2 seconds!

*Power Word: Barrier used to absorb an amount of damage (that scaled with the priests spell power) just like Anti-Magic Zone, but was then changed to reduce all damage by 30%.

Комментарий от EvilElpay

This absorbs 75% spell damage for 10 seconds or until it absorbs (10000 + 2 * AP) spell damage. Let’s assume your AMZ can absorb 10k (to make the math easy) and you get hit by 1 spell that does 5k damage.

The AMZ absorbs 3.75K damage.

You take 1.25K damage because it was the remainder of the spell that was not absorbed.

The AMZ is now able to absorb 6.25K, the remainder of the spell absorption not consumed.

Комментарий от PKainus

If people all get hit at the same time by a mechanic (i.e. Searing Flame or Fued damage), they ALL get the reduction before the AMZ goes away since all the damage happens at the same time. This spell is extremely useful for large damage that occurs at the same time for everyone. It's not very useful for a "tank cooldown".

Комментарий от chaoscurtis

I imagine that this is a life saver at earlier levels, considering the fact that a DK can get it before ever being allowed to leave the starting instance.

Комментарий от Vereesa

While I, too, would like to see the absorbption cap either increased dramatically or even removed, we all know the removal won't ever happen without touching the damage reduction this offers.
Reducing magic damage taken by 75% for the entire raid for 10 seconds would trivialize pretty much any encounter with raid-wide magic damage, as well as make Unholy DKs a necessity for them. You also have to consider that most (if not all) raid-wide AoE damage is magical, which would mean that Power Word: Barrier would simply be a watered down version of AMZ.

Комментарий от Vereesa

Комментарий от Leviatharan

Apparently in 4.1, AMZ was modified so you can't summon it in the air- attempting to do so will cause it to automatically clip to the ground beneath you, rather than making a big purple air-bubble. Lame.

Комментарий от dlbert2000

Read Lunairs post above

Комментарий от Finshade

I would like to see this transferred to mages, even if it doesn't fit the lore. They have shields against magic, this would just be all about making it bigger.

Комментарий от Hokuto

AMZ will hold more damage than it's supposed to if the damage comes to multiple targets at once. Just like the Rapture trick, it occurs because of how simultaneous events and cooldowns/limits are handled by the server.

This is a snippet of our parse log for a Majordomo Staghelm fight, it was used to mitigate a Flame Scythe. We didn't have any priests bubbling, so the absorbs were purely from AMZ, exceeding 300k.

http://imgur.com/YIlbE

So don't dismiss it because of its low damage limit. You could effectively mitigate similar events, like a Ragnaros' Supernova.

Комментарий от ArMeDSuRvIvOr

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Комментарий от karlww

The most important thing people don't seem to understand in how this talent works is this: it does not absorb damage up to the cap, it breaks once the cap has been exceeded.

This may sound like the same thing, but the difference is very important. It means that if you put it down just before the whole raid is hit by 2,000,000 damage, as long as the damage is caused by 1 event (eg. Deathwing's elementium bolt landing) it will reduce that by 75%, mitigating 1,500,000 damage, and then it will check if the damage cap has been exceeded.

Go forth with your new-found knowledge and your exceptional timing, and use one of the most powerful defensive cooldowns in the game wisely.

Комментарий от Otore

As of the current Mists Beta patch, the level 57 talent Anti-Magic Zone has a targeting circle along with no rune cost.

This means you can no place it anywhere within 30 yards of your character, similar to death and decay.

Комментарий от MiltiadesBooga

So joyous that anyone can have this in MoP with the new stuff they're bringing in with talents. I loved this in Wrath, but playing Unholy became too much for my minuscule attention span in Cata (I can't micromanage the ghoul and me at once) so I had to ditch it.

Now I can have Koltira's Magic Purple Bubble of Superdeath again. Glee.

Комментарий от Xsound

My guild is currently 3/8 HC DS and we are thinking of having our unholy DK pick this up. As someone said, it can almost completely negate a AoE attack, aslong as everyone gets hit big and at the same time.

This has many uses in HC Dragon Soul from what I can see.
1. If you are still on morchok HC, this could take the edge of a crystal blast that happens right after/before a stomp. Very useful!
2. On Warlord Zon'ozz you just get another defensive CD for black phase, also helps people stack quicker. Meh, somewhat useful.
3. On Yor'sahj you have another CD for the tank during purple ooze or just a general cooldown. Very useful!
4. On Hagara you can negate a lot of different spells and there are a few big hitting spells, so this could be a lifesaver. Very useful!
5. On Ultraxion, not so much. Can put at the end only to go down instantly and reduce almost nothing. May work on Hour of Twilight to help a poor soaker. I deem it okay'ish.
6. On Blackthorn you can use it on onslaughts which is very helpful, or possibly save the raid by taking another Barrage even with debuff. Very useful!
7. On Spine it will just break right away in almost any situation, so just another raid CD during roll or heavy incoming damage. Meh, somewhat useful.
8. On Madness you can use it on Bolt or other heavy damage, seems like a very good choice! Very useful!

Комментарий от jtunis

With patience and a keen eye, you can see a large open-mouthed skull drifting across the purple void of the animation.

Комментарий от Xcidium

Seems to, for some reason, Not increase damage absorbed if you increase your strength...

Комментарий от RiftWalker

5.4 PTR Note:

Зона антимагии: Places a large, stationary Anti-Magic Zone that reduces spell damage done to party or raid members inside it by ~~75%~~ 40%. The Anti-Magic Zone ~~lasts for 10 sec~~ or until it absorbs at least spell damage. Lasts 3 sec.

Not really a defensive talent anymore... : /

BUT is still just the beginning of the PTR, so it still may change. :)

Комментарий от Superchief

In Draenor it now simply reduces a flat 20% spell damage in an area for three seconds. Raid utility.

Комментарий от Arnastrasz

Wow, this one ability was nerfed to freaking oblivion.

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