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Заклинания категории "Правосудие" считаются атаками ближнего боя, т.е. могут оглушить противника при использовании данной печати. Холи-паладин может сделать это с расстояния 40 метров каждые 10 секунд.

Комментарий от WoWTheBest

хорошая печать в пвп против 1 противника.Если что можно перекинуться флехой 1ой

Комментарий от WoWTheBest

и кстати она просто создана против кастеров в мили радиусе

Комментарий от Mitrem

я её называю "тысяча и ещё не один стан". особенно хороша эта печать против тех, кто любит юзать опасные, но некоторое время кастующиеся способности. и это не только игроки. вот вам пример: http://ru.wowhead.com/npc=28103#abilities . его Заслон Тени требует некоторого времени каста, но если его не сбить - вайпанётесь. а эта печать поможет в сбивании пока идут КД на молот, магический поток(БЭ) или "покаяние"(ретрик). правда тут действует процент вероятности, так что кому как повезёт

Комментарий от Tenebr

Браво, теперь паладинам не нужно юзать лишнюю кнопку как например варам, монахам и другим классам у которых есть скилл на замедление. Да и причем от роговского яда отличается своим 100% шансом наложения и невозможности снять его как магию -_-

This seal really shines in its judgment. It stops those pesky humanoid mobs from fleeing, great for situations where humanoids run all the time trying to get help from far off mobs (usually when their life is low). Good DPSers should make sure that doesn't happen, but this seal's judgment ensures it won't.

Good for soloing humanoid mobs, too.

Комментарий от Thrakin

One question, regarding its use in Soloing. Since the proc does not ( Should not ) trigger the global cooldown, is it possible to get in a well-time Flash of Light when this procs?

Комментарий от Frag971

I can't see why its not possible. :)

Комментарий от SgtBudde

The proc has diminishing return, so after few procs mob gets immunity against stuns.

Комментарий от Rarehunter

This Seal is one of the main reasons I love playing my pally alt and never die. In Hillsbrad and STV, a lot of mobs always run away (cowards!) and I always die because 90% of the time they aggro more mobs.

Комментарий от Nalvash

Does this spell have any good use in pvp, cuse I tried it once, and not much really i happend. The hinter kept looking at me instead of running. I dont kno if this is cuse of the spell or her own lack of realising the inevitable

Комментарий от Syphid

In the latest Wrath Beta build, this and every other seal's duration was increased to two minutes, and none of the seals are consumed by the new Judgment spells.

Комментарий от Roofhack

Not only that Syphid, but Seals proc from such things as Crusader Strike and Divine Storm as well, which may make this Seal's proc more viable considering it can be called upon by these abilities (CS and DS).

Комментарий от Athene

Does anyone have any numbers on the procc rate for this?
Would it ever be something you seal in pvp to stop, interrupt and annoy the opponents, or is the procc too low to make up for the damage that other seals would give?
I really hope the seal will be a good alternative in pvp, and not just the speed cap on JoJ.

Комментарий от Soujiro89

I was wondering if this seal affected rogues from using sprint. If not, it would be really usefull for pvp other than stopping the fear effect.

Комментарий от Soujiro89

I was wondering if this seal affected rogues from using sprint. If not, it would be really usefull for pvp other than stopping the fear effect.

Комментарий от awdadwagewa

I haven't had the pleasure of using it in PvP but in PvE, the proc is high enough to quickly make the target immune to uncontrollable stuns.

Комментарий от awdadwagewa

Rank 1? No.
Rank 2? Yes. This also works on shaman's ghost wolf form and druid's travel form.

Комментарий от makator

Wait With ne seal judgement system will "prevent from fleeing" effect be gone?

Комментарий от dankone

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=53407

Комментарий от kildeer

does any1 no the percent it procs?

Комментарий от Milktog

Does this stun effect the diminishing returns of hammer of justice?

Комментарий от Keys

Learn to help people Dankone, if it's not too difficult.

Kildeer, the reported proc rate is 4 or 5 times per minute. With a very slow weapon (3.5 speed) the chance for it to go off is between 23%-29%. If you have a quick one handed weapon (1.8 speed) the chance will be lowered to 12%-15%. The difference occurs because you either get four or five stuns per minute which makes it unreliable. It could also go off while diminishing returns are in effect, using up one of your procs.

Also, in case anyone was wondering, the diminishing returns from Hammer of Justice do not stack with this. Controlled stuns and uncontrolled stuns are counted separately.

Комментарий от Keys

Learn to help people Fnuffer, if it's not too difficult.

Kildeer, the reported proc rate is 4 or 5 times per minute. With a very slow weapon (3.5 speed) the chance for it to go off is between 23%-29%. If you have a quick one handed weapon (1.8 speed) the chance will be lowered to 12%-15%. The difference occurs because you either get four or five stuns per minute which makes it unreliable. It could also go off while diminishing returns are in effect, using up one of your procs.

Also, in case anyone was wondering, the diminishing returns from Hammer of Justice do not stack with this. Controlled stuns and uncontrolled stuns are counted separately.

Комментарий от Skoro

Patch 3.0.9 notes:

Paladins

* The duration on all Seals has been increased to 30 minutes and can no longer be dispelled.

Taken from http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/

Комментарий от Roho

In patch 3.09 they are now 30 minutes long and they can't be dispelled. XD

Комментарий от darkadept

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14990472390&sid=1

From the link:
Judgements of the Just – now also reduces the cooldown of Hammer of Justice by 10/20 seconds and increases the duration of the Seal of Justice stun effect by 0.5/1 second.

I found it interesting that this spell would be getting a possible buff. With all the other proposed additions to Prot Paladins to get additional silences and Divine Plea refreshable duration, it's clear Blizzard is interested in making Prot Paladins more interesting in PvP.

Is Blizzard intending for Seal of Justice be the Prot PvP seal? I would assume Seal of Blood would give the highest output, but Seal of Justice would certainly add another tool to the new playstyle of the Stunadin.

Комментарий от EnnEff

Procs Per Minute does not mean that you will get exactly that many procs per minute.

Procs Per Minute is just a way they calculate a weapon's proc chance for something based on weapon speed, so if they give it a 5 procs per minute value and you have a 3.0 speed weapon, it's 100/((60/3)/5) or 100/(20/5) or 100/4 or 25%. It does not mean that you will always and can only get 5 procs per minute, it just means that it has a 25% proc chance. One proc does not have an effect on the chance of future procs.

Комментарий от Niroshi

I've found lately that this Seal is actually a pretty decent choice for the Iron Council fight, since threat on Stormcaller (if you're not attempting a hard mode) isn't as big of a deal as he is usually the last to die for most guilds. The stuns from this Seal can really cut down on the raid damage taken over the course of the fight. You run into the DR problem of course, but it's not really a massive issue in this case.

Комментарий от Kurhan

Additionally, with Divine plea being up pretty much 100% for Prot pallys, you can swap out to another seal after he becomes immune since mana shouldn't be a problem.

I believe 30 seconds is the timer for DR on stuns and stuff like that, but that might be just the PvP one.

Комментарий от DeadWar

Its great rolling a pally heals and using this to get lucky and stun the other heals during a heal in arena battles.
xD

Комментарий от Dorovon

As a leveling paladin, I love this seal. As a mob comes out of a stun, it stops targeting you very briefly. If you time it right, you can use Hand of Reckoning, and because the mob isn't targeting you it inflicts its damage. As a leveling protection paladin without much burst, this makes single mob fights much shorter.

Комментарий от OwenYa

I just started using this seal with a Prot/pvp build. With Judgment of the Just + Shield of the Templar + Improved Hammer of Justice + Seal of Justice active you quickly become a casters worst nightmare! Like I said I just started using this in my 3v3 I judge Justice. I usually go straight for the healer and my DK focuses on the one he thinks he can kill fastest. We have a D-Priest healing and throwing out Psychic Scream. If he is lucky my target will get off one heal before my DK can kill one of their dps. I know there are counters to this strat but they don't usually see it comming since most arena players will peal from their healer if they are taking damage but I am not doing enough damage to call attention to myself. Damage is not my goal with this build.

Комментарий от Malafar

PvP DRs are 15 seconds, but I don't know if the PvE DRs are different (I don't think so, though).

Комментарий от Ridley

PVP notes:
Your DPS *will go down* noticeably, however:

- Procs on autoattack, Crusader Strike, Divine Storm, Judgement
- Can be used to stunlock someone. Wait for it to proc, and then follow it up with HoJ.
- People WILL waste their trinket/blink on this by instinct. Hit them with the real hammer if they use a defensive cooldown
- Useful for annoying healers, if you cannot kill them
- Might want to have a DPS seal handy once an enemy goes proc-stun immune due to DR's

Комментарий от LuthofDS

And here i thought Blizzard didn't like RNG stuns...

Комментарий от brucek2

For a level 22 pve tanking paladin, is this a better seal to use than righteousness? The cast interruptions and general damage prevention from this seal sound attractive, but is there a tradeoff in threat loss vs. what righteousness does?

Комментарий от frmorrison

Using Justice to tank an instance seems like a bad idea since you wouldn't generate much threat. It is mostly a PvP tool.

Комментарий от Quest

Should use SoC at that level for tanking anyway. Much better DPS tanking tool to get through the lower level dungeons fast.

Комментарий от Ordayc

Triggers from Hammer of the Righteous, which means it can stun multiple targets simultaneously.

Комментарий от goldenboi23

against annoying healers? are paladins not annoying healers? lol

Комментарий от lumpymilk

On the 3.3.5 ptr this stuns for 3 seconds up from 2, not sure if this will make the live realms,

Комментарий от Vexallius

The effect of this seal will be merged with Seal of Righteousness according to today's cata beta patch notes.

Комментарий от Tro44

This the cat page? where the discussion on the new change? lol
PS: how is the damage of the new seal of justice compared to other ret seals?

Комментарий от Daxmort

Still worse than Seal of Vengeance/Corruption (now known as Seal of Truth) and Seal of Righteousness (blended into Command with the correct Ret talent), as per the current patch. It will still be a PvP-only seal, I imagine.

Комментарий от evillecaston

With its former judgement effect gone, this seal has very situational use only. Sure, then random stun is nice against casters, BUT the sheer loss of damage from giving up Command (post 3.2) is questionable to say the least. And of course in raids, stun immunity completely defeats the purpose.

Комментарий от Innuendo

The current effect intended in Cataclysm on WoWHead as of today states that each attack while Seal of Justice is active will limit the target's movement speed (the old Judgement of Justice's effect), and also cause Holy damage. Judging this seal will simply cause additional Holy Damage. SoC is being removed so this will be the go-to Seal of PvP Ret.

Комментарий от BloodyIron

Anyone know how much this limits the run speed by?

Also, does this effect those who are mounted too? The phrasing suggests otherwise... :/

Комментарий от BloodyIron

By the way Seal of Justice (this spell) slows the Val'kyrs in the Lich King fight.

Комментарий от KahnOWhoopass

Does this register as "not a movement impairing effect"?

Комментарий от Coldbear

Now with NEW & IMPROVED double-talking jive speak in 4.0.6!

Druid
The act of shapeshifting now frees the caster of "movement slowing effects" instead of "Movement Impairing effects".

...except any movement slowing effects which ...don't "count" as

movement slowing effects

Semantics aside, ret paladins need a way to get in range to use their abilities or pvp gets a little fubar'd. But they could actually mention something about this in the various tooltips.

Kinda the same thing as the old Lifebloom heals when dispelled - except when it's "removed" by DK Plague Strike which didn't (doesn't? - sorry, I haven't played in a while) "count" as a "dispell."

Regarding people learning and you laughing - after so many years of shifting out of roots and snares and not meeting many ret paladins it becomes a bit of a reflex action to shift when you start getting slowed debuffs. Half the time you can't even tell which one of fifteen enemies put what slowing debuff on you.

Here's a laugh:
"The act of shapeshifting frees the caster of movement slowing effects but not speed limiting effects."

That might actually be an accurate tooltip! Yay me!

Комментарий от Viprime

Great for slowing demolishers in Strand of the Ancients.

Комментарий от Ronark

Unlike Seal of Truth, using Justice causes Exorcism and Judgement to not proc Seals of Command.

The Slowing effect only applies on Melee, CS, TV, and ShoR hits-- It does not apply on Judgements.

Комментарий от Orthis

Come Mists of Pandaria, Seal of Justice will cause melee attacks to deal additional holy damage and also reduce movement speed by 50% for 5 seconds.

Комментарий от Superchief

I'm not totally understanding the affect here. Does this affect +runspeed talents? Or does this only affect the +runspeed boots enchant? Cuz if all this is doing is negating the runspeed enchant then this is just broken as hell.

I'm using it in battlegrounds, but it feels like nothing is happening while an enemy has the debuff. I would rather just stick with Seal of Righteousness and global non-resilience targets, and Seal of Truth for resilience targets. What is this supposed to do, prevent me from being kited? The frost mages and sub rogues are still giggling and Каннибализмing my tender ret pally.

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Наполняет вас силой Света. С каждой атакой ближнего боя вы наносите дополнительно 12% ед. урона от светлой магии. Кроме того, скорость передвижения цели снижается на 50% на 8 сек.

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