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Первая версия этой трини(Конденсатор молний) падала с Терестиан Больное Копыто в Каражане
Вторую(Громовой накопитель) получали за Нечто тугоплавкое в Драконьем Пагосте
Третья(Власть мертвых / Власть неживых) лут с Ануб'арак

Комментарий от Shamovarka

Недавно тринка получила скрытый баф на 200% дамага, также баф теперь стакается до 5 раз. Теперь это довольно привлекательная тринка для многих классов. К примеру моей сове на манекене она дает 4.2% дамага(до бафа 1.5-2%).

Комментарий от DarkGreg

Где было написано что ап на 200%? или это твое личное мнение?
Самое оно было бы представить доказательство.

Комментарий от mandryo

Тестил ШП 375ilvl на манекене. Из 2 заходов по 10 млн. нанесённого урона данный тринкет нанёс ~350к (3,5%), что сопоставимо с уроном, нанесённого исчадием тьмы, выпускаемого по кд. Наносимый молнией урон был от 3 до 19к, средний интервал между срабатываниями молнии был ~10 сек.

Комментарий от DavidDraiman

бист тринкет для енха,больше сказать нечего

Комментарий от pav127

На кукле дпс выше на 1-1,5к по сравнению с воля несгибаемости не говоря уж о треше.

Lightning Capacitor version 3.0 normal edition.

version 1.0 : Конденсатор молний
version 2.0 : Громовой накопитель
version 3.0 normal edition : Нестабильный конденсатор молний
version 3.0 heroic edition : Нестабильный конденсатор молний

Комментарий от evgen4

Arcane Blast triggers Variable Pulse Lightning Capacitor.
Variable Pulse Lightning Capacitor hits you for 300000 Wall of text (critical).
You die.

Комментарий от m3x1can007

(INC OLD SHCOOL TALK)
I have to say, TLC was one of my favorite trinkets in BC outside of SoG, being a shaman in BC TLC lasted till about SWP, When blizzard put in Thunder Capacitor, I was so happy (although a nerfed version for reasons TLC was nerfed) I had to get it, and as an Ele shaman I have to get this.

More on the item.

A few people I know were asking what means.

"Unique-Equipped: Variable Pulse Lightning Capacitor (1)"

I'm not for sure, but it seems kind of common sense to me its so you don't use the NORMAL VERSION and a HEROIC VERSION, much like in ToC running two of the same trinkets but one being a normal version and one being heroic.

Anyway this is for those that had the same question as a few of my friends.

Комментарий от Ambellina

Actually, this would be 3.0 :D

Комментарий от Mellorine

Disclaimer:

WARNING: Do not disenchant while electrically charged!

Комментарий от spokk

anyone got any idea were this is going to drop?

Комментарий от spokk

anyone have any idea were this is going to drop?

Комментарий от spokk

Anyone got an idea where this is going to drop?

Комментарий от kuroihato

We'll likely see once actual PTR testing can be done on this trinket (vs just datamining). But I'm curious of one thing now.

For Elemental Shaman during BC, The Lightning Capacitor was so good because the charges you produced could 'overload' and send out a free bolt. This was caused because the bolt it sent out was named 'Lightning Bolt.' If the bolt it sends out is still 'Lightning Bolt' and still functions the same, then I can see this trinket lasting until the end of the expansion.

Granted, that will only be for Elemental Shaman.

Комментарий от Zzxyx

The Lightning Capacitor has gone through several iterations by now; and if the previous version is any indication, this will likely be a BiS trinket for casters.
Spell DPS will also have Средоточие некромантии and Руна Зет to choose from, should they pick this trinket.

For anybody interested, here is the history of this trinket style (WotLK broke the naming scheme):

v1: Конденсатор молний
v2: Громовой накопитель
v3: Власть мертвых/Власть мертвых (Horde) -=- Власть неживых/Власть неживых (Alliance)
v4: Нестабильный конденсатор молний/Нестабильный конденсатор молний

Комментарий от Laz0rPewPew

Actually Конденсатор молний isn't a Vanilla WoW drop.

I'm not sure if you ment "Classic" as in being the first of the capacitors or "Classic" as in vanilla, because Конденсатор молний is a Karazhan drop.

I think you might be confused because you wrote

Classic:
TBC:

which indicates that you thought the items were dropped in different expansions (not that Громовой накопитель is a drop)

Just a quick correction :)

Комментарий от Omgomgesiuol

Also the Thunder Capacitor is a Wrath item.

I'mjustsayin'.

Комментарий от Zzxyx

The Lightning Capacitor has gone through several iterations by now; and if the previous version is any indication, this will likely be a BiS trinket for casters.
Spell DPS will also have Руна Зет and Средоточие некромантии to choose from, should they pick this trinket.

For anybody interested, here is the history of this trinket style:

v1: Конденсатор молний
v2: Громовой накопитель
v3: Власть мертвых/Власть мертвых (Horde) -=- Власть неживых/Власть неживых (Alliance)
v4: Нестабильный конденсатор молний/Нестабильный конденсатор молний

Комментарий от Zzxyx

I appreciate the correction, I didn't know as I didn't play prior to BC. I was just trying to link all the caster trinkets together for anyone who wanted a quick reference (and the theme is the Lightning Capacitor, so I followed that.)

Комментарий от Zzxyx

I appreciate the correction; I didn't know as in BC I wasn't a raider. I was just trying to link all the caster trinkets together for anyone who wanted a quick reference (and the theme is the Lightning Capacitor, so I followed that.)

Комментарий от Zzxyx

Комментарий от wallert

The effectiveness of this trinket for various classes will depend on whether it can gain charge's from DoT ticks. If it can expect Warlocks and Shadow Priests to be melting each others faces over this.

Комментарий от Naforce

As of 8/6-2011, the procs do not scale with stats. Even though it does proc from dots it's still weaker than volcano and heroic bell for warlocks, as well as the other firelands trinkets on both normal and heroic.

Комментарий от Luxe

Recent sims suggest otherwise. It is hard to model this trinket currently, but even with varying procs the hard mode version still has potential to be best in slot.

Комментарий от Naforce

Which sim? Seeing as it's maximum proc output is 1 proc per 2.5 sec the proc itself maximizes at 1266/2,5=rougly 500dps, plus the added int of course. Now that's the absolut maximum, and totally unrealistic. More realistic is 3.5-4 sec between each proc, giving the proc 310-360ish dps. Keep in mind that whenever it decides to fire, it consumes all your stacks, so the effect is the same as if it would fire each time it procced. One 1266 hit per 2,5 sec is just as much dps as one 12660 hit per 25 second, which is why I clame that it isn't hard to model, it's actually very simple. The tests I've done on PTR had it proc as soon as it reached 10 stacks, but mostly before that. I never "lost" a stack due to having 10 stacks and then proccing another one. I've done tests where it goes from no scaling to high scaling, but the same scaling coefficient as dmc: volcano makes it good enough to be BiS for spriest and warlock, which should be what's intended.
Click here for the results from the latest simcraft, it shows slight improvement from my first simplified tests.
One downside with the trinket is that it doesn't scale well with aoe/multitarget, as it won't proc twice as often just because there's 2 targets whereas the other firelands trinkets are just as useful in multitarget situations.

Комментарий от sorsa

Welcome back. <3

Комментарий от Mackeyser

sorry, zyz, but your v4 can't work. The item is unique equipped. Blizz currently sets unique equipped to also include heroic versions.

Комментарий от Zzxyx

What the heck are you talking about? I wasn't even suggesting they be equipped at the same time...

Комментарий от Wildcatter

Just got this on my priest, went straight to the training dummies and can confirm that it procs from DoT ticks.

Комментарий от IdTheDemon

Got this last night on my warlock. Very, very sexy.

It would be nice if it scaled with spell power though.

Комментарий от Kinson25

Which boss does this drop from?

Комментарий от IdTheDemon

Ragnaros

Комментарий от Lrdx

Most probably the discharge spell is this one: Молния

Комментарий от Jmickey

My question was more along the lines:

Does the trinket consume the stacks when it fires the Lightning Bolt?

Комментарий от disrupt

I just got this tonight as a destro warlock. I'm not sure how much I like the proc. So far I've only tested it on a training dummy, but it seems to be doing very little damage when it goes off. Maybe with raid buffs it will get better, but until then it feels like this is just a massive block of int. Which is cool, cause I love int, but I don't see this being irreplacable -- Pretty much anything with this much int and a better bonus would likely replace it.

Again, I only tested it on a training dummy, I'll edit/reply next time I raid with it and have real combat logs to parse.

EDIT: Tested it in raids. After a boss fight, it did about 110k dmg, or less damage than my doomguard. Avg hit: 5402.5, crit 38% of the time.

Комментарий от JahloveLOL

Got this trinket last week on my Balance Druid. From our Heroic Shannox kill tonight my trinket only did 1.4% of my total damage. 15 total hits for an average of 4925.5 and total of 73882. 4 total crits for an average of 14415.0 for a total of 57660. While the int is very nice, trinkets like Средоточие некромантии are going to be BiS because of what the proc can do for dps.

Комментарий от sorsa

The stack rate and proc damage does scale with haste, crit and spelldamage buffs to an extent, but not scaling with a casters spellpower is indeed a huge flaw.

Комментарий от sorsa

The stack rate and proc damage does scale with haste, crit and spelldamage buffs to an extent, but not scaling with a casters spellpower is indeed a huge flaw - or if it did, might render the trinket overpowered.

Комментарий от alexishomer

Looted it as destro lock and tested on dummy for 5 mins of continued combat. The damage effect proc (i.e. lightning bolt) occured 8 times, 1 of those was a crit .

Therefore the internal cooldown is probably at around 35-40 sec, and that the proc is capable of critting.

Since a charge is guaranteed to buildup per crit, so the being able to crit 10 times within that ICD timeframe would be necessary to maximize the dps output of this trinket. Therefore, DoT classes (afflict lock and spriest, or fire mage in certain situations etc) are probably able to get the most out of the trinket.

With my lock was sitting at 11% crit, the average Lightning Bolt crit dmg is around 7k, with a total of 60k out of 3.8m. Therefore it is doing about 1.5% of my total dmg, with an average of 200dps over 5 mins. The total dmg dealt is on the low side (of only about 12k dps) due to distractions , but the low total dmg dealt should not have a major effect on the rate of proc of the trinket.

IF this trinket does have a lightning bolt internal cooldown of 40 sec and is able to accumulate to full charges (10) for each lightning bolt proc (doing about 12k dmg), i can see this proc part doing about 300 dps, unaffected by spell power.

The buildup charge is displayed as a permanent buff, i.e. cannot be dispelled.

Комментарий от artyfarty

Got this for my warlock yesterday. It's proc does about 1%~2% of my total damage both in demo and destro — less than 2t12 bonus, which is about 3%. That seems extremely weak. However, my overall DPS with it still looks higher than with DMC:Volcano, so i'll wear this for now.

UPD. Spent about an hour testing various trinket setups on dummy today for afflli lock. VPLC outperforms both H:Bell and my brand new Necromantic Focus by 1-2k DPS for no good reason.

So yes, that trinket is awesome. Looking forward to get enough hit to replace Zeth with Necromantic Focus — this should be deadly.

BTW, the trinket was buffed by about 70% since than.

Комментарий от Stjimmy

False. Нестабильный конденсатор молний is in fact the spell used. Not the one you're linking to.

Комментарий от kirus

I am currently experiencing that the stacks just vanish.
They do not do damage (according to the combat log) the buff just "fades" and you have to start from scratch.

This is experienced on a frost mage.
Anyone know whats going on with this?

Комментарий от alexishomer

Additional information about the proc (lightning bolt), not the charge:

1. the proc is triggered by your dmg spell - dots or direct

2. the proc requires line of sight - if you put a dot on a target and then go out of LOS, the proc will not hit if it procs.

3. the proc does not require facing the target

4. the proc is capable of crit

5. the proc is capable of missing if your hit rating is not capped... (i guess you are hit capped while killing rag?)

Комментарий от Seezer

Got this for my warlock yesterday. It's proc does about 1%~2% of my total damage both in demo and destro — less than 2t12 bonus, which is about 3%. That seems extremely weak. However, my overall DPS with it still looks higher than with DMC:Volcano, so i'll wear this for now.

UPD. Spent about an hour testing various trinket setups on dummy today for afflli lock. VPLC outperforms both H:Bell and my brand new Necromantic Focus by 1-2k DPS for no good reason.

So yes, that trinket is awesome. Looking forward to get enough hit to replace Zeth with Necromantic Focus — this should be deadly.

@artyfarty. This just isn't true. There is no way that VPLC outperforms bell and NF by 1-2k dps. VPLC's only real value is the intellect. Rune beats it. DMV beats it. For afflic. People are in this mode of "It's a higher ilvl, I can use it, so it must be good". And Necromantic is just not good for affliction. Mastery is very weak for affliction. People need to realize that higher ilvl doesn't mean better.

Комментарий от lightninguy

did any elemenetal shamaman try this trinket to see if the spell it launches can proc our mastery?

Комментарий от Ruhler

What's the opinion here of this trinket for arcane mages?

Комментарий от Beltane

http://i.imgur.com/bn7ys.png

That's the overall log for a quick test run in ZA. If you don't want to check the image yourself, the minimum hit I saw was 2948, maximum crit was 34666. This is from a fire mage's perspective, with 2464 crit rating and double intellect trinkets (the other being Средоточие некромантии).

It seems to scale with spell power now, contrary to what a lot of others have been saying; I have seen single charges hit for 7k and crit for 11k, while never hitting as low as 1k for a single charge, as the tooltip states
It also scales with the casters crit chance
The cooldown on charge generation is not affected by haste
The charge is fired at the enemy you crit, not your target (i.e. AoE spells fire them off randomly at the ones you crit)
This trinket will benefit casters who crit a lot and who hit very fast the most, such as elemental shamans and fire mages; the proc alone accounts for about 5% of my damage as a fire mage
It can proc from dot crits and even abilities like flame orb (which aren't a direct hit OR a dot) trigger it

Комментарий от Chaosbubba

This trinket got a stealth buff as of yesterday, or today. It now stacks to a max of 5 and does 300% increased tooltip damage. These are rough estimates, but it should be highly reconsidered as most classes BiS, pre-heroics now!

Комментарий от GaGaChanel

IT'S SAD TO SEE ALL OF THESE DUMB , SELFISH ASSES CLASSES ROLLING ON THIS BESIDES ELEMENTAL SHAMANS. I PRETTY MUCH THINK MAGES WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM ROLLING ON SOMETHING THAT SAID PROCS PYROBLAST, YEAH WE DON'T BENEFIT FROM THAT, ALL CLASSES SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ROLL ON THIS BEFORE ANY ELEMENTAL SHAMANS, HOPEFULLY YOU USE LOOT COUNCIL

Комментарий от SuaveGentleman

I honestly can't tell if this is a serious post, but just because Shamans have a Lightning spell, does not mean that Shamans deserve this over other classes, it scales the exact same way for every class.

Комментарий от Latus

Except the proc IS boosted by nature boosting talents and abilities.

Комментарий от Latus

Actually seems to be about 2.6 times the tooltip damage.

Комментарий от aggixx

Of which Ele Shaman have none except for and Покорение стихий, which equals out to maybe a 6% bonus to nature damage, versus a Boomkin (about a 29% bonus to eclipse damage from mastery on top of their 25% flat from Eclipse damage bonus) which is active approximately 30% of the time... a boomkin would get an average of 18.5% bonus to their nature damage.

So no, this trinket is not really any better for Ele than it is for any other class. Boomkin get's the most use from the proc by far.

Edit:

As of last time I checked, the proc scales with the arcane mage mastery bonus, making it very powerful for them aswell, considering a FL geared mage should have at least ~25-30% mastery.

Just saying.

I was not aware exactly how Arcane mage mastery worked, and which spells it affected. The average percentage bonus would be very similar to, possibly slightly higher, than a Boomkin considering how Arcane mages don't get the full benefit of their mastery and all times.

You forget elemental fury, the passive bonus that ele shamans get that boosts nature crit damage by 100%, making this trinkets crit damage quite massive. Regardless it gives an enormous boost in damage to almost all caster classes. As a fire mage it accounted for 160k damage on a ZA boss(the proc alone) let alone the large bonus in spell power it gives.

This was something that I didn't consider. Shamans are the only caster that this trinket's proc would have double damage crits, as Boomkin's passive only gives their wrath and insect swarm double damage crits, not "all nature damage." Also, a single attempt on a short ZA boss doesn't really mean anything from a evidence point of view, as all sorts of RNG could swing the result in quite a wide margin.

Anyways, if you take a look at the BiS simulations for 4.2.2 Live at SimulationCraft, you'll see the following DPS for the "variable_pulse_lightning_capacitor" portion of each classes damage:

Balance Druid: Not in BiS set
Arcane Mage: 860 DPS
Shadow Priest: Not in BiS set
Elemental Shaman: 956 DPS
Affliction Warlock: 1007 DPS
Demonology Warlock: Not in BiS set
Destruction Warlock: 1072 DPS

Комментарий от Damagrokaz

Ok got this on my elemental shaman yesterday, and it seams awesome, prolly mostly couse we elementals really love ekstra lightningbolts.

after some testing here is a list of disclaimers and claimers for elemental shamans:

Claimers:

Procs of dots such as fire shock.
As the lava burst is a crit you are sure to get alot of procs of this specielly with the tier 12 four-set
Elemental Fury increse the crit damage by 100%
Elemental Precision increse the bolts with 3 %
Elemental Mastery increse the bolts with 20%
The procs will fire and hit and do damage even if los from target
The procs will fire and hit even if mounted

Disclaimers:

The lightningbolts from the trinket are not affected by shaman mastery so no double bolts from trinket atlest.
the proc does not consumes Clearcasting
the proc does not give Rolling thunder
the proc does not give Clearcasting from when crit
the proc does not affect Feedback so not giving 3 secs less cd on Elemental mastery

Yet unknown:
if the proc scales with Shamanism 32% additional benefit from sp on lightning bolt
if the proc scales with Concussion 6% damege on lightning bolt
if the proc scales of Clearcasting 10% damage

Комментарий от Damagrokaz

By Chaosbubba (172 – 2) 28 days ago (Patch 4.2.2)
This trinket got a stealth buff as of yesterday, or today. It now stacks to a max of 5 and does 300% increased tooltip damage. These are rough estimates, but it should be highly reconsidered as most classes BiS, pre-heroics now!

as of today i had 6 stacks of Electrical Charge and then on next crit it fired a non crit bolt of 20k as elemental shaman without totems or buffs active aka no debuff on target and no 10% sp from totem.

my gues would be that the trinket still can stack up to 10 but that they just upped the proc chance of the trinket actually firering. that would mean that you very seldom can reach high stacks but that it still is possible.

either that or it was a bug ^^

Комментарий от Shinijumi

Testing today on my demo lock, idly wandering through low level heroics like Sethekk Halls. Saw some numbers that seemed unusually high so I did went to the SW training dummies and experimented a little longer, while watching the combat log. Here are a few numbers I noted. No temporary buffs, no procs (which I assume don't affect it anyway, I'm just saying for thoroughness), no Curse of Elements, just the numbers. Because everyone likes seeing numbers.

4-stack crit: ~33k
2 stack crit: 16.3k
2 stack hit: 9k, 8.7k, 8.2k
1 stack crit: ~13.5k, 10.7k
1 stack hit: ~6.5k, 6.4k, 6k, 5.6k, 3.1k, 3k

If the damage stacks additively, the 4-stack seems like it should have hit harder, and even the 1-stack hits range remarkably widely in their damage.

Trinket says 1034-1333 per stack... but it appears to hit for between 2 and 4 times that amount, a fairly wide range of fluctuation. Or there's just something odd about 1-stack mechanics.

Edit: And for the hell of it, afterward I took off all my gear but the trinket and got a 3-stack hit for 11,771 and a 1-stack hit for 6577, which seem right around the proper ranges of damage. If it did scale, it'd be only slightly, and hard to prove with the apparent fluctuations built into the damage range.

Комментарий от Robula

It's interesting to note that equipping this trinket on my Shadow Priest boosted the scaling value of Crit immensely, placing Crit over Mastery in both Patchwerk and HelterSkelter fight conditions using 25000 iterations in SimulationCraft 422-4.

Комментарий от Sesh

Procs for H Pally -

... now that I have your attention ^_^

Procs from Judgment when used for the haste proc/self heal and from Holy Shock for the heal/damage both.

Imagine my surprise when two hours after it dropped I crit a full 10 charge for 88K on a prot warrior in AB and just about shocked his balls off. Yeah, this is my new favorite healing trinket :D

Комментарий от tobindax

This item appears to be designed to be good for any caster since it's "Your Primary stat plus a pew pew at random". Sure some classes like Arcane mages get more from their primary stat but it's still the primary stat in every class and spec.

It's like DC:Volcano but even more universal since that one did the same but with mastery as a bonus (intellect existed but as a proc). Since some classes did not benefit from mastery as much (or a random proc of intellect was not very beneficial (see arcane)) it was less universal.

Комментарий от guatafu

I'm surprised no one has commented or asked the following:

Does it proc Elemental Overload?

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Нестабильный конденсатор молний

Уровень предмета: 384
Персональный при поднятии
Уникальное: Variable Pulse Lightning Capacitor (1)

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Если на персонаже: Каждый раз, когда ваши атакующие заклинания наносят критический урон, вы накапливаете один электрический заряд и получаете шанс поразить противника молнией, наносящей от (214 * 0.875) до (214 * 1.125) ед. урона за каждый накопленный заряд. Электрических зарядов не может быть больше 10. Заряд накапливается не чаще, чем раз в 2,5 сек.
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